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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Feeling lost without tabs
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:30:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83lhro3pkt.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP_d_8X4zvsGetRjJTzQ7sZs4LohrQFZokan28jwDZ2fy1+pxA@mail.gmail.com>

> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 23:48:52 +0700
> From: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
> Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> 
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
> >> To switch buffers efficiently, I need a visual representation of their
> >> relative order
> >
> > AFAIK, each frame orders the buffers separately, so I don't see why
> > you would have a problem here.
> 
> The problem here is that I need to see the list before I start pressing keys.

Only if there are a lot of them.  Keep your frames project-specific,
and there won't be too many of them you'll need to remember.  E.g.,
with programming projects, I normally switch to a buffer via some
tags-related command, so I don't even need to remember the buffer
name.  And if I need to switch to a buffer visiting a specific source
file, then I know that buffer's name by definition.  Etc. etc.

> The workflow with C-x b is: fingers press C-x b, eyes see the default
> next buffer, brain tests if that’s the right one.

A frame can display more than a single buffer, so you don't need to
switch buffers so frequently.  And when you do switch, even if you do
that with "C-x b", chances are it's the buffer displayed previously in
the same window, so no such complex procedure is needed.  I usually
just press "C-x b RET" without even looking.

> The cognitive load (roughly, the number of eyes-brain-fingers
> roundtrips) is much worse in the second case as the operations cannot
> be done concurrently.

Granted, you are happy with your workflow, as much as I'm happy with
mine (for many years now).  You asked me how do I manage my buffers,
and I told you.  We don't need to prove each other that the other's
workflow is worse.




  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-20 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-20  1:47 Feeling lost without tabs Sampath Weerasinghe
2014-07-20  4:08 ` Yuri Khan
2014-07-20  4:27   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-07-20  5:12     ` Yuri Khan
2014-07-20  6:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-07-20 16:48         ` Yuri Khan
2014-07-20 17:30           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-07-21 14:15           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-07-22  3:51             ` Yuri Khan
     [not found]         ` <mailman.5771.1405874938.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-20 18:40           ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-21  3:56             ` Yuri Khan
2014-07-20  7:19       ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]       ` <mailman.5741.1405840784.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-20 18:36         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-20 23:48           ` Dan Espen
2014-07-21  0:29             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-21  1:08               ` Charles Philip Chan
2014-07-21  2:25               ` Dan Espen
2014-07-21 16:25           ` Bob Proulx
2014-07-22  0:57             ` Robert Thorpe
     [not found]           ` <mailman.5823.1405959942.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-21 18:04             ` Dan Espen
2014-07-21 21:05               ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]               ` <mailman.5831.1405976742.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-21 21:22                 ` Dan Espen
2014-07-21 21:54                   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-21 23:57                     ` Robert Thorpe
2014-07-22  2:33                     ` Dan Espen
2014-07-22 21:28                       ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-21 21:47                 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-21 21:43               ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-21 21:40             ` have new Gnus message not always fullscreened (was: [gnu.emacs.help] Re: Feeling lost without tabs) Emanuel Berg
2014-07-20  5:22   ` Feeling lost without tabs Tak Kunihiro
     [not found]   ` <mailman.5729.1405830475.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-22 15:14     ` Javier
2014-07-22 15:32       ` Ken Goldman
2014-07-22 21:01       ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-23  0:57         ` Javier
2014-07-23  2:21           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]       ` <mailman.5871.1406043177.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-22 21:03         ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]     ` <<lqlv3t$hog$1@speranza.aioe.org>
2014-07-22 17:03       ` Drew Adams
2014-07-20  6:25 ` Filipp Gunbin
2014-07-20  9:20 ` Kevin Le Gouguec
2014-07-20 17:36 ` Drew Adams
2014-07-20 18:02 ` Robert Thorpe
2014-08-16 21:13 ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found] <mailman.5726.1405828965.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-20 14:19 ` Dan Espen
2014-07-20 18:11   ` Bob Proulx
2014-07-20 18:34   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]   ` <mailman.5777.1405879906.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-20 21:44     ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-21 17:02       ` Bob Proulx
2014-07-20 23:52     ` Dan Espen
2014-07-21 22:54       ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-21 23:33         ` Bob Proulx
2014-07-22  2:44         ` Dan Espen
2014-07-22 21:23           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]         ` <mailman.5833.1405985639.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-22 22:02           ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-20 18:28 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-11-03 14:07 ` swe20144
2015-11-03 14:21   ` Dan Espen
2015-11-03 15:22   ` Yuri Khan
2015-11-03 15:46     ` Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
2015-11-03 17:31       ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-03 17:47         ` Charles Philip Chan
2015-11-03 21:24           ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-03 15:37   ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-11-03 15:53   ` Aziz Yemloul
2015-11-03 15:56   ` Charles Philip Chan
2015-11-03 20:07   ` Bob Proulx
2015-11-03 23:48   ` Kendall Shaw
     [not found] <mailman.5835.1405987077.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-22 21:18 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-22 22:32   ` Robert Thorpe
     [not found] <mailman.5882.1406068755.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-22 23:57 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-23  1:25   ` Robert Thorpe
     [not found] <mailman.5886.1406078772.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-23  2:29 ` Emanuel Berg

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