From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Single quotes in Info Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:38:29 +0200 Message-ID: <83lhksshdm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87twzhgk84.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422088729 19800 80.91.229.3 (24 Jan 2015 08:38:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 08:38:49 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 24 09:38:45 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YEwEs-0007Wk-Uw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 09:38:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34324 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YEwEs-0008QN-5t for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 03:38:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40858) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YEwEg-0008OY-IN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 03:38:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YEwEd-0006sd-Ab for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 03:38:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:44710) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YEwEd-0006sN-1t for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 03:38:27 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NIO00M00ACG7G00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:38:25 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NIO00MWOAO05D10@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:38:25 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87twzhgk84.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102237 Archived-At: > From: Marcin Borkowski > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:17:47 +0100 >=20 > I'm not sure about it, but it seems that after upgrading from 24.3 = to > 25.0.50.1, the Info buffer is a bit uglified. First, it uses some = face > I don't like for variable and function names Not sure what you mean here, because there is no such face in Info. Maybe you mean Info-quoted, which is used for quoted strings? (You can use "M-x describe-text-properties" to show the face at point.) > Worse, instead of e.g. `t' it now says =E2=80=98t=E2=80=99, for ins= tance (i.e., it > uses Unicode single quotation marks). I don't think this has anything to do with Emacs. These characters come from the Info file itself, and are produced by the new 'makeinfo= ' command. That's "progress" for you: many people nowadays no longer want to see ASCII quotes, they want to see those fancy characters Unicode introduced. Or maybe the reason is that in Emacs 24 we actively prevent 'makeinfo= ' =66rom doing that, whereas in Emacs 25 we don't. > This is extremely annoying, since it makes incremental searching fo= r > single-quoted strings much harder. Doesn't M-C-s allow you to find that by a suitable regexp? Anyway, we should revive bug #13131, and provide an easier solution for this particular issue. > How to get back to ASCII quotes? I think you need to regenerate the Info docs, using the levers we did in Emacs 24 to disallow Unicode quotes. Or customize 'makeinfo' to produce ASCII characters instead (search for OPEN_QUOTE_SYMBOL in the Texinfo manual), and then regenerate the docs. Or install an older 'makeinfo', which didn't produce these quotes, and then regenerate th= e docs.