From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: split window Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 22:52:29 +0300 Message-ID: <83lhg9yf0i.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20150526143108.59d7eb9a@zothique.localdomain> <20150527065620.66bcc51f@JRWUBU2> <20150526232646.21f3d172@zothique.localdomain> <20150527204355.435a5958@JRWUBU2> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1432756382 11804 80.91.229.3 (27 May 2015 19:53:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 19:53:02 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 27 21:52:55 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YxhNn-0006Iz-9Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 21:52:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55265 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YxhNm-0001vr-Gb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 15:52:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54839) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YxhNb-0001vm-M0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 15:52:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YxhNX-0003AM-IL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 15:52:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:53565) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YxhNX-0003AH-4g for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 15:52:39 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NP000100XQ4NC00@mtaout29.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 22:51:54 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NP000HR8XUH9590@mtaout29.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 22:51:54 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <20150527204355.435a5958@JRWUBU2> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.185 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104623 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 20:43:55 +0100 > From: Richard Wordingham > > Emacs 23.3.1 is the latest for Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin, which is > in long-term support until 2017. It was built for Ubuntu in May 2013. > I've tried switching to Emacs 24.4, but the debugger interface (M-x gdb > -i mi) makes horrible window and frame choices. I've gone back to > Emacs 23 for running the debugger. The old GDB interface is still there, you just need to use "M-x gud-gdb" to invoke it. Downgrading to 23.x because of that is too radical, cause you'll miss a whole load of useful features. > I might even wind up integrating the m17n bug fixes and improvements > into my copy. You will be much better off using 24.5 for that, or even the git master. Among other things, UAX#9 is supported to the last additions in Unicode 6.3 and 7.0; even the proposed additions for 8.0 are in. > Emacs 24.4 was the latest stable Emacs release a few months ago. It > might even be the last version for me as an editor - the news for > Emacs 24.5 (https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/news/NEWS.24.5) says > 'tpu-edt.el' is now obsolete, so I may have to find a new editor. I > only need the EDT bits from tpu-edt. Obsolete doesn't mean dead or gone, just that it's in a separate directory. Why should you care about that, and punish yourself? > > This is what lead me to think it was something in the init file. > > Try "emacs -q your-file.here", instead. The "-Q" inhibits the > > startup screen as well as the site-init and user init files. The > > lowercase "-q" option inhibits the user init file only. > > I did some archaeology with the Windows builds - command line uses > runemacs. No, runemacs is for invoking Emacs from a desktop shortcut or from an Explorer window, or from Start->Run dialog. > On Windows, Emacs 23.0.60.1 (and 23.2 and 24.4) displays two windows, > the startup screen and the file to be visited, whether or not the -q > option is specified. It looks like new Emacs behaviour at Version 23. I see nothing of the kind here. There's no such new behavior.