From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 22:53:58 +0300 Message-ID: <83lhez1wo9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <5581C29E.1030101@yandex.ru> <558D6A3D.1070706@yandex.ru> <877fqnzpno.fsf@gnu.org> <5590493C.8000007@yandex.ru> <87381bzife.fsf@gnu.org> <75f2fe0f-f15e-4af8-b9ae-0ddc9231c9ab@default> <83a8vi60ke.fsf@gnu.org> <83vbe64jyt.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnfx5340.fsf@gnu.org> <83ioa52km7.fsf@gnu.org> <55931641.5080705@cs.ucla.edu> <83r3or26mi.fsf@gnu.org> <5594407A.80403@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435780451 26242 80.91.229.3 (1 Jul 2015 19:54:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 19:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, tsdh@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru, acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 01 21:54:02 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZAO52-0002s2-1W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 21:54:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60729 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZAO51-0000FY-DB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 15:53:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35166) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZAO4y-0000FS-Mi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 15:53:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZAO4u-0007Xu-Gi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 15:53:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:55485) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZAO4u-0007XR-8l; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 15:53:52 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NQT00J00R5X8S00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 22:53:50 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NQT00J7LR9Q01C0@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 22:53:50 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <5594407A.80403@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187703 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 12:33:14 -0700 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: rms@gnu.org, tsdh@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,=20 > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru, acm@muc.de,=20 > stephen@xemacs.org, drew.adams@oracle.com >=20 > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Which is why I envisioned that soon enough we will want to use in= the > > tutorials the same quoting style as in *Help* buffers. After al= l, > > "C-h t" is a help command. In fact, a few tutorials already do t= hat. >=20 > The issue doesn't arise now with =E2=80=98C-h t=E2=80=99 in an Engl= ish locale, since=20 > etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL quotes "like this" which is fine for an ASCI= I-only text=20 > file. As long as we don't decide to switch to =E2=80=9Clike this=E2=80=9D, = yes.