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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Better handling of window margins
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 16:46:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83lh9agtke.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv7fkupd8z.fsf-monnier+Inbox@gnu.org>

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 08:22:26 -0500
> 
> >> Not sure what SIZING-DESCRIPTOR should look like (it could be
> >> a function which takes a size and returns a new size).
> > I don't think such a function can be implemented by any particular
> > mode, because a mode only knows well what it needs from the margins,
> > it has no better idea about other modes' needs than the rest of Emacs.
> 
> That's the point of having SIZING-DESCRIPTOR be a function: it receives
> a description of the margin chosen by "all other users" and adjusts it
> according to its own needs.

Then that function is not specific to any particular user of the
margin, and so Emacs could just always use that code, instead of
asking the users of the margins to explicitly request that.

> > functions for it.  To say nothing of the fact that having more than
> > one function again raises a problem of in what order to apply them,
> > and what would be the results of applying conflicting functions in any
> > order.
> 
> We'd push this responsibility on the package authors.

They won't know what to do with that, I think.

> If SIZING-DESCRIPTOR just returns the sum (or the max) of the provided
> size and its own use, ordering doesn't matter, for example.
> And for the remaining cases we could rely on add-function's `depth' to
> impose a particular ordering.

IIUC what you mean by "ordering", it cannot be controlled anyway, not
without non-trivial changes in the display engine.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-04 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-01 21:28 Better handling of window margins Joost Kremers
2015-12-02  8:23 ` martin rudalics
2015-12-02 13:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-02 17:43   ` martin rudalics
2015-12-02 17:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-02 18:11       ` martin rudalics
2015-12-03  6:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-03 18:16           ` martin rudalics
2015-12-03 20:09             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-03 20:43               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-04  8:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 13:22                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-04 14:46                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-12-04 17:30                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-04 18:45                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 20:55                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-04 21:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 21:33                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-05  7:56                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-05 15:17                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-05 15:49                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-06  4:27                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-06  5:02                                         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-06 16:10                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-06 20:24                                             ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-07  3:32                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-07 10:35                                                 ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-07 16:39                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-07  0:29                                             ` John Wiegley
2015-12-07 16:24                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-07 17:35                                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-07 17:38                                                   ` Achim Gratz
2015-12-07 17:41                                                     ` John Wiegley
2015-12-07 17:50                                                       ` Achim Gratz
2015-12-07 17:36                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-07 17:39                                                   ` John Wiegley
2015-12-07 18:42                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-07 19:14                                                       ` John Wiegley
2015-12-04  8:07               ` martin rudalics
2015-12-04  9:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 10:21                   ` martin rudalics
2015-12-04 15:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 16:56                       ` martin rudalics
2015-12-04 18:34                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 19:23                           ` martin rudalics
2015-12-02 19:52       ` Joost Kremers
2015-12-03  7:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-02 19:55   ` Joost Kremers
2015-12-03  7:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 12:49 ` John Wiegley

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