From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 17:58:21 +0200 Message-ID: <83lh5trmg2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87vb4zb0i4.fsf@gnu.org> <837fheuu6a.fsf@gnu.org> <877fheb1rh.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ziua9mwq.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83h9git36k.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb4y9ep9.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83a8mat2aa.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3fm9du0.fsf@wanadoo.es> <56DDF901.1080600@gmail.com> <87mvqa9bjc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83ziu9skcz.fsf@gnu.org> <874mcha8ql.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457452712 17039 80.91.229.3 (8 Mar 2016 15:58:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 15:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 08 16:58:26 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1adK1g-0000BD-OU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:58:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35500 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adK1g-0002LF-AV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:58:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35295) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adK1Z-0002Kn-13 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:58:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adK1V-0007Of-Lm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:58:16 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41813) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adK1V-0007OW-IN; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:58:13 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2702 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1adK1T-00083W-VY; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:58:12 -0500 In-reply-to: <874mcha8ql.fsf@wanadoo.es> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3s?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?car?= Fuentes on Tue, 08 Mar 2016 05:34:10 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201157 Archived-At: > From: Óscar Fuentes > Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 05:34:10 +0100 > > >> Another option for correcting errors on commit logs is `git notes', but > >> I don't know about its implications. > > > > Nobody does. We shouldn't consider any more experiments in this area > > until someone else uses these methods and proves they are viable in > > our case. > > How could *someone else* prove the viability of something in *our* case? By coming up with a procedure which we can study and decide whether it fits us. > You always can argue that his project is not Emacs... I can, but why would I want to? The opinions are not pre-determined, they are based on study and in this case also on a year-long experience of actually using a procedure. > `git notes' is a documented feature available since a long time ago. It > can turn the immutability of the commit log into a non-issue if you wish > to produce a proofread ChangeLog to include in the tarball. We need a more detailed proposal than this, TIA. David says "git notes" is not a solution; if notes don't support merging, then I tend to think he is right.