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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: sdl.web@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master f995fbd: * lisp/server.el (server-name): Add autoload cookie. (Bug#23576)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 12:41:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83lh3583tb.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cd724f21-a300-8d05-0caa-91b7ed8f447d@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 20 May 2016 11:48:35 +0300)

> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 11:48:35 +0300
> 
> On 05/20/2016 10:46 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> >> Get rid of the set-variable.
> >
> > Sorry, no.  I use that command myself a lot, so I see no reason why it
> > should be avoided.
> 
> I don't think Leo means to delete the command, just update the manual to 
> note that the package should be loaded first.

It's nuisance to load a package before you can set a variable which
should be used on the first use of the package's functionality.  It's
easy to forget to load first, and then seeing "No match" or some such
is an annoyance.

> Otherwise, we'd have to autoload _all_ the defcustoms. Why should this 
> one be different?

Because the value should be set before the first invocation of
server-start.  If you set it after starting the server, it's too late.
That's not something that happens with _all_ the other defcustoms.



  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-20  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20160518194708.86FE0220157@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2016-05-19 16:44   ` master f995fbd: * lisp/server.el (server-name): Add autoload cookie. (Bug#23576) Glenn Morris
2016-05-19 17:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-20  4:07       ` Leo Liu
2016-05-20  5:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-20  7:11           ` Leo Liu
2016-05-20  7:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-20  8:48               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-20  9:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-05-20 12:12                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-05-20 13:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-20 18:29                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-05-20 18:59                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-26  3:01                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-05-26  3:36                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-05-26 15:38                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-27 19:51                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-05-28  7:11                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-17 16:42                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-17 20:35                                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-06-17 22:35                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-18  2:20                                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-06-18  2:38                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-18 18:09                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-18 20:05                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-23 13:45                                         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-06-23 13:48                                           ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-06-23 14:27                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-23 14:48                                             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-06-23 14:30                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-23 15:35                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-23 15:52                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-24 14:01                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-01 13:33                                     ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-01 15:51                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-05-20 17:30       ` Glenn Morris
2016-05-20 17:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-20 18:15           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-20 18:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-21  4:25               ` Leo Liu
2016-05-21  6:52                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-21  7:05                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-21  7:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii

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