From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unbalanced change hooks (part 2) [Documentation fix still remaining] Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 17:57:15 +0300 Message-ID: <83lgzdkmus.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83h9ashfgx.fsf@gnu.org> <831t1wharr.fsf@gnu.org> <20160810161821.GB3413@acm.fritz.box> <83wpjofttf.fsf@gnu.org> <20160810185735.GD3413@acm.fritz.box> <20160811112951.GA2154@acm.fritz.box> <7e1478b6-cf00-fcbf-8c24-43bdaa57e2b6@dancol.org> <415d1cca-f32c-624e-a4be-9aadcf8a0f17@dancol.org> <83inujbpek.fsf@gnu.org> <871t16e476.fsf@russet.org.uk> <831t16nsvo.fsf@gnu.org> <87oa495gne.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1472655468 10477 195.159.176.226 (31 Aug 2016 14:57:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 14:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dancol@dancol.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 31 16:57:41 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bf6xL-0001a8-He for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2016 16:57:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54509 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bf6xJ-0007no-2v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:57:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57598) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bf6x9-0007nV-8f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:57:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bf6x3-0006R2-Ts for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:57:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44499) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bf6x3-0006Qs-QX; Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:57:17 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2965 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bf6x1-0003mA-RU; Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:57:16 -0400 In-reply-to: <87oa495gne.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:207028 Archived-At: > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: dancol@dancol.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 12:20:21 +0100 > > Actually, for me, any individual change that removes inconsistency > between the b-c-f and a-c-f locations is a positive thing. I already > have a fall back plan, but the fewer times this is called, the more > efficient my code gets. Having read through the code for quite some time, I simply don't believe this is possible. You could fix one marginal use case (they all are marginal), but by doing that break another. There are too many layers of patchwork.