From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Grep Japanese characters
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:36:33 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83lgafcidq.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2efg7mdqp.fsf@fgunbin.playteam.ru> (message from Filipp Gunbin on Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:06:38 +0300)
> From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:06:38 +0300
>
> > The conclusion is that UTF-8 can be used as a locale's codeset
> > (good!), but sending UTF-8 text to the console still doesn't work well
> > (not so good). So if people use this knob in Windows 10, they should
> > arrange for console input and output to be in some codepage other than
> > 65001 (a.k.a. UTF-8).
> [..]
>
> But in message <86pnzsbnvu.fsf@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> above it was
> reported that grepping of these non-ascii chars worked from emacs, no?
When you gerp from Emacs, the results of the search are not displayed
by the Windows console, they get read by Emacs and displayed by Emacs.
And (GUI) Emacs can display _any_ character supported by the fonts
installed on the systems, regardless of the codepage. But if people
run Grep from the shell prompt, they will see unreadable output, even
on Windows 10 with that setting in effect.
> And what does "using as locale's codeset" then means in your message?
A locale's most general specification is ll_CC.ENC, where ll is the
language, CC is the country, and ENC is the encoding. Example from
Posix systems: pr_BR.UTF-8, for Brazilian variety of Portuguese with
UTF-8 encoding. Example from Windows: French_Canada.1252 (where 1252
is the codepage used for encoding). The ENC part is also known as
"codeset".
More about that, for Windows in particular, here:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/x99tb11d.aspx
You will see that the MS doc still says UTF-8 is not supported as the
ENC part.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-13 14:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-11 23:02 Grep Japanese characters Tak Kunihiro
2018-07-12 2:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 3:05 ` YUE Daian
2018-07-12 13:10 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-07-12 13:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 3:36 ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-07-13 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 14:06 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-07-13 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-07-16 20:11 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-07-17 2:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 2:58 ` YUE Daian
2018-07-12 13:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 5:05 ` Yuri Khan
2018-07-12 13:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
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