From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 09:31:30 +0300 Message-ID: <83lfyv3v0d.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <83v9yb92c7.fsf@gnu.org> <878sv7sp3r.fsf@telefonica.net> <83r28z8zl9.fsf@gnu.org> <20190515210924.sijzy6mnpgzkt4gm@Ergus> <83ftpecwu1.fsf@gnu.org> <86zhnbdu1t.fsf@zoho.eu> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="13271"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 25 08:42:56 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hUQON-0003L1-Pc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 May 2019 08:42:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37078 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hUQOM-0002sq-Pv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 May 2019 02:42:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52311) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hUQO1-0002os-Rw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 May 2019 02:42:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55464) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hUQDM-0005kF-CD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 May 2019 02:31:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4476 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hUQDL-0006l0-QB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 May 2019 02:31:32 -0400 In-reply-to: <86zhnbdu1t.fsf@zoho.eu> (message from Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs on Sat, 25 May 2019 06:42:06 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120630 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 06:42:06 +0200 > From: Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs > > I think the tone of this very reply confirms he > is right. What "tone" is that? Those were simple questions, asked in good faith, using polite wording. I quite clearly disagree with the opinion that "new/different ideas are not really very welcome", but disagreement should not be taken as bad attitude, especially when backed up by facts. Disagreement and its expressions are legitimate in discussions, and serve an important purpose of helping to approach the truth by mentioning different aspects and POVs. On the contrary, claims such as yours are IMO harming the discussions because they make people think twice before posting their legitimate opinions, lest they will be accused of having a "tone".