From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38457: 27.0.50; dabbrev-expand regression due to message change Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 05:43:07 +0200 Message-ID: <83lfrrigj8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8736e3vve8.fsf@gmx.net> <8736e2coyv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2vujd0y.fsf@gnu.org> <87blspm0sm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <837e3ckbem.fsf@gnu.org> <871rtjn0kt.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="232588"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 38457@debbugs.gnu.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 05 04:51:04 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iciAR-000yPd-Uf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 04:51:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49630 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iciAQ-0002a2-Nm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 22:51:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39391) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ici3i-000572-Dr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 22:44:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ici3f-0001pd-V5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 22:44:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36926) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ici3d-0001oB-MZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 22:44:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ici3d-0000mP-JU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 22:44:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 03:44:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38457 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38457-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38457.15755174022937 (code B ref 38457); Thu, 05 Dec 2019 03:44:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38457) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2019 03:43:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42899 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ici2z-0000lJ-NG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 22:43:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54199) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ici2x-0000l4-8T for 38457@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 22:43:20 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34049) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ici2r-0000jN-6L; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 22:43:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2114 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ici2q-0007zP-EY; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 22:43:13 -0500 In-reply-to: <871rtjn0kt.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Thu, 05 Dec 2019 01:16:34 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:172869 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, 38457@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 01:16:34 +0200 > > > Let's not rock the boat too much so close to the release cycle because > > of a very minor problem which caused these changes. You may not see > > any problems with it now, but I'm certain we will bump into numerous > > problems very soon if we make such significant changes in this > > infrastructure, which is used everywhere in Emacs. > > There may be a misunderstanding here. I was talking about the > changes for development in master, not for the release branch. > If you think it would be too risky to release with these changes, > then fine, these changes could be removed in the release branch. The master branch will become the release branch very soon. If you want to wait with these changes after the emacs-27 branch is cut, it's fine by me, but we need to solve the issue with dabbrev-expand for the release branch as well. That is why I suggest to find a simpler, safer solution for that issue now, and if you insist on using a timer (which I personally consider not a good idea), then do this after the release branch is cut. Thanks.