From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38457: 27.0.50; dabbrev-expand regression due to message change Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2019 09:44:39 +0200 Message-ID: <83lfrphp94.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8736e3vve8.fsf@gmx.net> <8736e2coyv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2vujd0y.fsf@gnu.org> <87blspm0sm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <837e3ckbem.fsf@gnu.org> <871rtjn0kt.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83lfrrigj8.fsf@gnu.org> <87eexiqps5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="22124"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 38457@debbugs.gnu.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 06 18:38:26 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1idHYg-0005cG-HP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 18:38:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42240 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1idHYe-00059I-Tm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 12:38:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51511) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1idGK3-0005wX-JI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 11:19:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1idGK1-0003E5-8e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 11:19:15 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:40972) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1idGK1-000358-45 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 11:19:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idGGx-00054U-SS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 11:16:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2019 16:16:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38457 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38457-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38457.157564894519388 (code B ref 38457); Fri, 06 Dec 2019 16:16:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38457) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2019 16:15:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46929 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idGGf-00052S-1v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 11:15:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57056) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idGGa-000510-Ld for 38457@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 11:15:41 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43179) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1idGGQ-00026X-3O; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 11:15:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4720 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1id8I4-0001Dp-2Z; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 02:44:40 -0500 In-reply-to: <87eexiqps5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Fri, 06 Dec 2019 02:10:20 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:172965 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, 38457@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2019 02:10:20 +0200 > > > That is why I suggest to find a simpler, safer solution for that issue > > now, and if you insist on using a timer (which I personally consider > > not a good idea), then do this after the release branch is cut. > > Using a timer is the right thing to do, there is no simpler solution, > it solves all problems. Sorry, I object to installing a timer-based solution at this time. It is too radical and is likely to cause numerous unintended consequences all over the place. I just suggested another possible solution: bind 'minibuffer-message-timeout' to zero when calling 'minibuffer-message' from 'message'. Would that work, or will it have some unwanted side effects?