From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 12:34:14 +0300 Message-ID: <83lfhij7qh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <875z8ortot.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <20200909075750.GA31381@tuxteam.de> <83o8mejogk.fsf@gnu.org> <20200910082928.GB20222@tuxteam.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2781"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 10 11:34:56 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGIym-0000cB-1g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 11:34:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35478 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGIyl-0000jL-2D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 05:34:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33712) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGIy3-0008Hr-Dx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 05:34:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54949) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGIy2-0002rB-MP; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 05:34:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4806 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kGIy2-0002zx-43; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 05:34:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: (emacs-devel@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254960 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 09:08:09 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." > > With vanilla Emacs you have indeed (see C-h w): > > kill-ring-save is on , , M-w, > yank is on C-y, , , > kill-region is on C-w, , > > So the CUA bindings are there. But not the "CUA bindings" that users out there expect, which is what we call "CUA mode". IOW, historical precedents and naming mistakes aside, many newcomers expect the likes of C-c, C-v, C-a, C-z, C-x to do what they do in other applications, and we only provide those when CUA Mode is turned on, we cannot possibly provide them by default. So the fact that IBM calls "CUA" something else is a tangent, not really relevant or important in this context.