From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15748: 24.3.50; `customize-group': Provide a way to hide/show all values Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 20:04:24 +0300 Message-ID: <83lev9s4iv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3a6553a3-0e1f-45ca-bfa2-8f39207f9308@default> <87fslhfkxp.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2583"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: hmelman@gmail.com, 15748@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 10 19:05:44 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1noTIt-0000VV-J9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 19:05:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52268 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noTIr-0003Rg-0w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 13:05:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44578) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noTIE-0003QJ-Pv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 13:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41259) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noTIE-0007Qc-HC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 13:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1noTIE-0006xT-B6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 13:05:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 17:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15748 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 15748-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15748.165220227326695 (code B ref 15748); Tue, 10 May 2022 17:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15748) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 May 2022 17:04:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35154 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1noTHl-0006wU-42 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 13:04:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1noTHj-0006wI-JP for 15748@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 13:04:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48970) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noTHe-0007MG-6a; Tue, 10 May 2022 13:04:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=EOV5koCJCpKniVgvJOInuyL8XI8oBfmKh9F2Mj+vmtk=; b=fxfpNZ6gRmEM rRN3oa4GpmmTUsKoiiFhqX3qJkDRIjbGSMyxs/X6w5r7xGLNqPi5v3N+xJUKphM6eVvHYt7kxFxm8 5kusTAdqaBTwcAo+2yomgaZen+N3XMHhblVU9NAod7FRT0PAxH+cOzBfrCFAvM7HRyMdyfnMgAV8J 4eI5mqOLTSRpeAD2Jeu94QA321le5AJKISeEWoZkjBI6J3BdCw9aB/RN0gYmEJ9R6CfM2mtWVKs39 8iQSol2GbC2k36meWPQ/BZuG/woG/oIpWJoyyzxQs49DFw5/Sx9LqwXj8kPEQir+iG1q7BHMhMbgw Ymcn6wsHz96xy+9K3sd3gg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1878 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noTHd-0004fB-MC; Tue, 10 May 2022 13:04:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87fslhfkxp.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 10 May 2022 17:48:18 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:231859 Archived-At: > Cc: 15748@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 17:48:18 +0200 > > Howard Melman writes: > > > When exploring new packages I often use customize-group to see what > > settings I can change but it defaults to not showing the values and also > > showing only the first line of each docstring requiring me to click on > > "More" for every option. Having a command to show/hide all values > > would be very convenient in this case. > > I've now added this to Emacs 29 (as custom-toggle-hide-all-variables/`H/). Thanks, but can we have some documentation about its usage? For starters, in which buffers it is supposed to be used, and how? I thought this was for the buffer created by customize-group, but there it seems I can use 'H' only once: after that one time, which reveals all the variables, any subsequent 'H' press says "Invalid widget type" and does nothing. (I used the buffer created for the 'display' group, in case it matters.) 'H' does toggle in a buffer created by customize-variable, but is that the intent? I tried to understand whether I did something wrong by reading the doc string of the new command, but it didn't add anything to my understanding; it doesn't even say which "widgets" is it talking about. I think we need to improve the user documentation of this new feature.