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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 56637@debbugs.gnu.org, yantar92@gmail.com
Subject: bug#56637: 28.1.90; [FR] Allow a way around font-lock-mode being unconditionally disabled in " *hidden*" buffers
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 19:09:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83lesnlq9t.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv5yjr6d94.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 20 Jul 2022 11:15:20 -0400)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: yantar92@gmail.com,  56637@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 11:15:20 -0400
> 
> >> But I can't see why we shouldn't accommodate those needs more directly.
> >
> > I can: we don't need, and really shouldn't, attempt to cater to each
> > corner use case in core.  Doing that (and we've been doing that for
> > quite some time) makes Emacs a larger and less maintainable monster
> > than it needs to be or already is.
> 
> I can't see why adding the patch below would make it less maintainable.

Well, I explained that.  If you still don't see it, I guess we'll have
to agree to disagree.

> It sure seems much cleaner than the horror quoted above (which suffers
> from all kinds of corner case misbehaviors).

The horror quoted above won't be in Emacs, so it is of no concern to
us.

> > You already have one symptom of the monster's size: I already cannot
> > tell which hooks are and aren't running in temporary buffers without
> > consulting the sources.  Way to go, Emacs!
> 
> And for that reason, I think we should try and avoid such special cases
> (such the special case of not enabling font-lock in temp buffers), by
> replacing them with other measures which give similar results but
> without such special casing.

Temporary buffers _are_ special cases, whether we want it or not.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-20 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-19  4:15 bug#56637: 28.1.90; [FR] Allow a way around font-lock-mode being unconditionally disabled in " *hidden*" buffers Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-19 12:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20  4:13   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-20 11:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 12:09       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-21 12:26         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 12:44           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-21 12:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 13:18               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-21 15:13         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-24  6:40           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-19 16:13 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-19 16:36   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-19 17:01     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-19 18:05       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-19 19:02       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-19 19:21         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-19 19:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-19 21:12             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-20 11:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 15:15                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-20 16:09                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-07-20 19:15                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-20  4:15   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-20 14:58     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-21 12:11       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-21 18:39         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-24  6:47           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-24 14:25             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-25  9:23               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-25 15:56                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-26  5:21                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-23  7:53       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-23  8:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-23 13:46         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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