From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 21:54:35 +0300 Message-ID: <83lepyys2c.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <8335c9dkyf.fsf@gnu.org> <83edvqafr7.fsf@gnu.org> <83h70m19yv.fsf@gnu.org> <83czba17sb.fsf@gnu.org> <87czbam5u2.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6166"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: yandros@gmail.com, tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Rob Browning Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 02 20:58:21 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1of4AO-0001Ot-QX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 20:58:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58428 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of4AN-0001hA-Kl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:58:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41062) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of46t-000597-Bq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:54:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36988) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of46t-00019E-0S; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:54:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=MR4WJw1NsrcaB75CVsuOeHYr4oTu29vwYj6j2eKlALI=; b=Rq3nukWLAX+g 8jhP0GkuhIP2gX/sOE6yOPIvuEGFhvSxMY2EiKhEJ86grmSpFWK5Oh0QtXlY85e0KwiCOZ4TZs2V4 hRM33REYGZWsOY1sdWlz+xtLFM3fDG8JUVM9i7abMFbWYy9yUMA9zzR0GzBb0jTEOHJEdU1knlUEX WlUtOS/DSrHJFvP5r27aJYjslYW4Vkgg65ScAOEeLQIlXHAjguRBqcnNYKGi5liBa9tnw3GsBBS9D pd7pwsGJi1WWNAVllqAxaZ0f/1zETqcSYHZbuFzrsunIHjZs0Dwb4o2tQx/8HukFPEJKQwfterm3S Qhj9uY/XeoEMWOxdYEYcfA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1651 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of46s-0007i6-FN; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:54:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87czbam5u2.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> (message from Rob Browning on Sun, 02 Oct 2022 13:35:33 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296687 Archived-At: > From: Rob Browning > Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 13:35:33 -0500 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > No, I don't think the similar handling makes sense here. The *.elc > > files are architecture- and configuration-independent, whereas the > > *.eln files are not. E.g., the same foo.elc could be used by user A > > who runs Emacs 28 and by user B who runs Emacs 29. But the > > corresponding *.eln files will be different, even though they were > > produced from the same foo.el. > > Right, but for what it's worth, the Debian infrastructure is already set > up to, and would, maintain separate .eln files/trees for those two > cases, *if* we ever re-versioned the emacs packages. Alas, there are many more than just two cases! > Right now, there's only one GNU Emacs flavor in debian, we don't provide > versioned packages/flavors like emacs27 and emacs28 anymore. But a user who installs Emacs 28 doesn't need to nuke the Emacs 27 installation, does he? And the same with a user who wants both emacs-nox, emacs-pgtk, and emacs-lucid (say) installed on the same system. Right?