From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 14:27:25 +0300 Message-ID: <83leproov6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83pmfdduix.fsf@gnu.org> <86wn9ji3ma.fsf@gmail.com> <86tu4lsnqk.fsf@gmail.com> <8335c0p2fn.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13082"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 07 15:21:23 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ognI3-00039N-29 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2022 15:21:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47138 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ognI1-0001UW-Kb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2022 09:21:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53834) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oglWD-0001V9-O7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2022 07:27:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41552) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oglWD-0001s3-3n; Fri, 07 Oct 2022 07:27:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=3Gd/n2csROWsCb8yJtvchiJRH+lsXj6eJD6XocowQRw=; b=L51DRNf6aMaN 5ug98X6ohvsD8HKSEn0gsbneJfxqul8klgeTn0n1FdMfZuI3v/aaOkZLizyRFQQjri94esne+dYkP eUq8FwySnRBOtVNTaNxbeblOBTu77hUTsikaeQNnvTvyT2Yb6zgHqYNYlqCFeLF2p4HsUUB5QZAwU F2oRKNwYET+SLepPNGn6tus9u5vZjXC4ulzaeiRJdo2ouz5GYtZ/AS0v1vpdzmoa3919uuCHY9lce wlh7qh8xhohHP/7ITZqlwyvlkQfF/lYz+oNlH1J9kUeu1kcJ8bFetkSGAHkHsbaXSJGim0YxAVvWN 37Umv/cWwUDKGDLuaZvM/w==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1472 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oglVm-0003F9-Ud; Fri, 07 Oct 2022 07:27:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 7 Oct 2022 13:12:03 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297146 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 13:12:03 +0300 > Cc: ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > > On 07.10.2022 09:34, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > We can (and will) make it easier for > > users to understand what its features do, by labeling the menus and > > describing in the doc strings and help-echo strings what the commands > > and variables really do and what effect they have on Emacs. > > Indeed we'll probably get the most bang for the buck by adding a menu > entry or two which could say something like > > Language Servers -> Connect > Language Servers -> Shutdown > > without renaming the package or its commands. Yes, something like that. Bonus points for adding some relatively-thin layer which would allow Eglot to be just one "backend" for language servers' services, so that users could use others. But that may be too much for Emacs 29.1. > We could put them alongside EDE's and Semantic's menu entries. Or maybe > instead, given that EDE is not the recommended choice for "Project > Support" anymore, and we don't usually recommend Semantic to new users > either. Or we could make the EDE/Semantic menus have a sub-menu, whereby the user could select which kind of "support" they want.