From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62300: 29.0.60; No hyperlinks for some symbols in *Help* buffers Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 15:11:42 +0200 Message-ID: <83lejq6ygh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y1nr6zmr.fsf@gnu.org> <83ttyf6ys3.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11405"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 62300@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 21 14:12:23 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pebmo-0002kE-OE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 14:12:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pebmY-0006iT-FX; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 09:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pebmX-0006i9-Er for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 09:12:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pebmU-0001t8-Fy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 09:12:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pebmU-0006Tu-5v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 09:12:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 13:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62300 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62300-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62300.167940429824882 (code B ref 62300); Tue, 21 Mar 2023 13:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62300) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Mar 2023 13:11:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57916 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pebm5-0006TF-NQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 09:11:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35412) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pebm4-0006T3-Nr for 62300@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 09:11:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1peblz-0000S3-G4; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 09:11:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=t4Mcynog+1MDGMws8xVQYqMwwr76aWrU71b6aZpMWQk=; b=R6vwUcaCWgaj 7fjnUUYJvAu0Vr9LqEFPaFHeNzeMirEp83LY5wCu4leaOOubQL9eFTmQ9wCQuFnz8jFf6yhd7FS+c twLLYTz/bgPo2V86E3p3x0JGEs93uQJfgoBuiggttJsuBwg9qMavIkgJqpQN7CYpKuuKc9EAHC14N iYBWRflguhxTprQcOhBNED+haxKOS5Cvf2Ht32M2et+wfyGCgEEW20Onwc7XcMf9CQ3aYBu5CS+dd F7SVR5funjHZRIIeK7XCI5t+H4zm5wAj+6hdnKeAgEXwwfDTAEvqst5pXgknVOmW4wR+ofOtbGSSq 6yZTANBvarM7MVVYE35K9w==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pebly-0002da-Rx; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 09:11:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 20 Mar 2023 17:55:40 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:258345 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: 62300@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 17:55:40 -0400 > > >> emacs -Q > >> C-h f global-text-scale-adjust RET > >> > >> Observe that in the *Help* buffer the variable > >> global-text-scale-adjust-resizes-frames does not have the link > >> appearance. This is because: > >> > >> (boundp 'global-text-scale-adjust-resizes-frames) => nil > > `help-definition-prefixes` and friends > (`help-enable-completion-autoload`, ...) are the result of a tradeoff: > we offer to autoload files "on demand" but the "demand" is often > vague/implicit, so we have to judge when the demand is clear enough to > justify loading a file and when it's not. > > If we're too trigger happy, we can end up auto-loading all the .el files > in sight, making Emacs unnecessarily bigger&slower (and increasing the > risk that we bump into a file that breaks the convention, such as > `c-ts-mode`). > > In this case, `global-text-scale-adjust` has an explicit autoload in > `loaddefs.el` so we already have the docstring needed to display > `C-h f global-text-scale-adjust RET` without having to load > `face-remap.el`, so `help-enable-completion-autoload` doesn't load > `face-remap.el`. So you are saying that the only way of having global-text-scale-adjust-resizes-frames decorated as a link is to autoload it? Even though autoloading defcustoms is frowned upon? Or is there a better way?