From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12911: bug#12908: 24.3.50; file `emacs_backtrace.txt'? Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:55:53 +0200 Message-ID: <83k3tj1s52.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4B9EFDFEE27E43DBB6331605DD7C2842@us.oracle.com> <50A7DB2C.7050501@cs.ucla.edu> <8339082gig.fsf@gnu.org> <50A7E5AB.3040006@cs.ucla.edu> <83zk2g10ew.fsf@gnu.org> <50A800BD.2@cs.ucla.edu> <0D5E662929EB46BABC33674094EA6A24@us.oracle.com> <50A837BD.10707@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353211038 20887 80.91.229.3 (18 Nov 2012 03:57:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12911@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 18 04:57:28 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TZw0a-0002E4-Gg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:57:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51847 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZw0Q-00060T-Hl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:57:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49482) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZw0M-0005zR-5j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:57:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZw0J-00063Y-3f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:57:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41547) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZw0J-00063U-0I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:57:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZw1C-0006kk-Cn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:58:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12911 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12911-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12911.135321104025907 (code B ref 12911); Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:58:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12911) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2012 03:57:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51798 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZw0V-0006jo-VI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:57:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:44964) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZw0T-0006jg-GZ for 12911@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:57:18 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MDN00900ZYKCF00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 12911@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:56:20 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MDO008F309VM1U0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:56:20 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <50A837BD.10707@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67103 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:19:57 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: Eli Zaretskii , 12911@debbugs.gnu.org > > On 11/17/2012 03:08 PM, Drew Adams wrote: > >> I must have missed that request; all I see from him in Bug#12908 > >> > is a comment about how to deal with the file names > > That's because Stefan wrote it in the proper bug thread, and not in this one > > Stefan's comment was in response to the request > "Please do not write such files willy nilly to the directory where the > Emacs process was opened (or whatever). That is not user-friendly." > Stefan agreed with the request, and suggested ~/.emacs.d. However, > the request was about Emacs's behavior on Microsoft Windows. > > On GNU and other non-Microsoft platforms, Emacs already satisfies > the request, because it relies on its invoker to specify where > the debugging information will go, and in practice this approach > works reasonably well on these platforms. Stefan's comment, > in context, does not imply that Emacs should change its behavior > on these platforms. Then I guess we should close this bug as "wontfix", because I submit that Emacs on Windows does the same as on Unix, namely, puts this data on a file in a random (but documented) location on the disk. The only way the Windows code will be changed to write the file in .emacs.d is if the Unix code is changed to do the same.