From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: windows build failure Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 22:10:29 +0300 Message-ID: <83k3mkp7bu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83ppwcpegh.fsf@gnu.org> <87k3mkuwih.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1369681866 30234 80.91.229.3 (27 May 2013 19:11:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 19:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 27 21:11:06 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uh2p0-0002rO-0l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 May 2013 21:11:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32991 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uh2oz-0000se-6R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 May 2013 15:11:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52694) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uh2om-0000rz-TZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2013 15:11:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uh2oe-0005Dx-Jn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2013 15:10:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:42328) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uh2oe-0005DB-AS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2013 15:10:44 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MNH0060014DLI00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2013 22:10:20 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MNH006W6197EQ40@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 27 May 2013 22:10:20 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87k3mkuwih.fsf@wanadoo.es> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159841 Archived-At: > From: =D3scar Fuentes > Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 20:07:34 +0200 >=20 > Eli Zaretskii writes: >=20 > > Btw, I urge you to switch to the Posix build method, described in > > nt/INSTALL.MSYS. >=20 > Eli, do you have on mind to deprecate the Windows makefiles on a ne= ar > future? (~1 year or so). They are already deprecated, I announced that when I merged the Posix build changes into the trunk, see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-05/msg00387.html Perhaps you were asking whether makefile.w32-in files will be deleted= . I don't plan to do that, I think we better let them bitrot into oblivion. That would allow people to migrate in their own time. > That would imply deprecating the support for MSVC as well, right? Yes. With at least 3 different distributions of GCC for Windows, there doesn't seem to be a compelling reason to keep the MSVC support alive, especially since doing so requires non-trivial efforts with every new MSVC release. What I'd like to do next in this department is make sure Emacs can be built as a 64-bit executable using MinGW64 and the new Posix build procedure. People who have MinGW64 installed are encouraged to try that and report any problems they have. Thanks.