From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Repo cpnversion progress report Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:18:24 +0200 Message-ID: <83k3df6h2n.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20140130195557.GA8405@thyrsus.com> <83iot16u66.fsf@gnu.org> <20140130214201.GA9204@thyrsus.com> <83ha8k7fp0.fsf@gnu.org> <87iot0f481.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> <8761p0eyna.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1391199522 30196 80.91.229.3 (31 Jan 2014 20:18:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 20:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 31 21:18:48 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W9KY4-0003e6-CI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 21:18:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57885 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9KY3-0007Kd-UI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:18:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38758) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9KXw-0007J2-My for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:18:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9KXp-0002re-7c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:18:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:52446) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9KXo-0002rR-Tz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:18:33 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0A00G008BRZ600@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:18:31 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0A00G508EVZB00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:18:31 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <8761p0eyna.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169294 Archived-At: > From: Karl Fogel > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Eric Raymond , Emacs developers > Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:31:37 -0600 > > The most important fact about all our prior switching-to-git discussions > was that always RMS vetoed the idea, explicitly saying that the number > of developers who wanted to switch was not relevant to the decision. He > even continued saying this after it was obvious that Bazaar was not in > any meaningful sense a GNU project. > > Given that history, I find it ironic that ESR is now being accused of > not listening enough :-). So you are saying that no one can ever be accused of not listening enough, unless we also accuse RMS? Is that what you are saying?