From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unibyte characters, strings, and buffers Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:18:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83k3bddzhg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <831txozsqa.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppl7y30l.fsf@gnu.org> <87r45nouvx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8361myyac6.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9capqfr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83eh1mfd09.fsf@gnu.org> <87ob0pnyt6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83ob0pe0va.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1396091934 8631 80.91.229.3 (29 Mar 2014 11:18:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 11:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 29 12:19:03 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WTrHw-0005yP-Fs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:19:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38466 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTrHw-0007b7-1r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 07:19:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48835) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTrHp-0007Zz-E0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 07:18:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTrHk-0000h2-TN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 07:18:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:59818) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTrHk-0000gs-Km for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 07:18:48 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N3700K002ZRL700@mtaout27.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:15:52 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N3700LOT3AG9B00@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:15:52 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171136 Archived-At: > From: Andreas Schwab > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:00:32 +0100 > Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > The next question is what to do with unibyte strings, which are > > currently widely used for pure-ASCII text. > > You do the same, obviously (the representation wouldn't change for > pure-ascii, of course). OK, so we get rid of unibyte strings as well. Next question: what happens to implementation of encoding? It currently produces raw bytes. Should it produce eight-bit characters instead? If not, who or what will convert raw bytes into eight-bit characters, when they are inserted into a buffer or string, and who or what will convert them back when they are written to a file or sent to a process?