From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: char equivalence classes in search - why not symmetric? Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 22:19:26 +0300 Message-ID: <83k2saaqwx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <2a7b9134-af2a-462d-af6c-d02bad60bbe8@default> <834mjecdy7.fsf@gnu.org> <38061f42-eaf1-47c6-b74d-f676ac952b18@default> <83r3miatvl.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441135189 9275 80.91.229.3 (1 Sep 2015 19:19:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:19:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 01 21:19:39 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWr5m-0000YW-Oc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 21:19:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57235 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWr5m-00050I-Jg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 15:19:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45251) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWr5V-0004w6-NT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 15:19:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWr5Q-00009e-Mq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 15:19:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:58609) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWr5Q-000092-Fv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 15:19:16 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NU000H00IWLB700@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 22:19:14 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NU000H33J029440@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 22:19:14 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189418 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 11:46:11 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >=20 > > > > We are asking for matches that disregard the diacriticals > > > > (and in case of =AA also higher-order collation-order variati= on). > > > > > > No. You are asking for that only when you use a search pattern > > > that does not use the diacriticals. When you search with =E1 i= n > > > the pattern you are NOT asking for matches that disregard the > > > diacriticals. And why not? > >=20 > > Because =E1 does include a diacritical. By specifying it, the us= er told > > us the diacriticals are important, and shouldn't be disregarded. >=20 > Again, you are just parroting what the implementation does ??? I explained the interpretation of the user input, how's that implementation? > Again, both options for fold matching should probably be available. > There is no reason to hard-code one of them at design time. >=20 > At least no reason has been put forth so far. You've got all the reasons, you just refuse to hear them. Time to bail out.