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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: ahyatt@gmail.com, 1092@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#1092: compilation-goto-error goes to wrong location when buffer has hidden regions
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 17:31:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83k2nqadd0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvoad3192k.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 03 Jan 2016 01:22:31 -0500)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 01:22:31 -0500
> Cc: 1092@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > I'd agree that either selective-display should be marked as deprecated,
> > or the problem should be fixed. I don't know what the status of
> > selective-display is, though - it might be worth bringing this up in
> > emacs-devel.
> 
> There are several problems with selective-display:
> - first and foremost, the variable provides 2 different features:
>   - when set to t, it makes CR behave specially (it's a special
>     line-separator that makes the next line invisible).
>   - when set to a number, it makes all lines indented deeper than this
>     number invisible.

Why is that a problem?  From my POV, it's the same feature in 2
flavors.  We have similar stuff all over the place.

> - The first use should be declared obsolete because overlays provide
>   a much better way to do the same thing.  There might still be a few
>   packages out there using this old selective-display thingy but they
>   really need to move on.

I see no reason whatsoever to obsolete this.  (We already did, but I
think that was a mistake.)  It is a much more lightweight feature than
overlays (certainly performance-wise, but also in other aspects).  The
fact that selective-display affects the display engine code in just 3
places, and with almost trivial code, while overlays do that in about
20 places (and need a much heavier and trickier support code) alone
speaks volumes, I think.

I wish every rarely used display feature was so lightweight as
selective-display.

> - The second use should be replaced by a minor mode which provides the
>   same feature using overlays, but nobody bothered to do so.
>   Maybe because this second use is very rarely useful at all.
>   So maybe this second use should be just dropped (i.e. made obsolete
>   without providing an alternative).

I would object to dropping it without a good alternative.

Anyway, I don't see how this report of a minor bug should trigger such
far-reaching conclusions.  It took me all of 5 minutes to fix it; we
should have done this 7 years ago.  I'm sorry we didn't, but better
late than never.





  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-03 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-05 18:38 bug#1092: compilation-goto-error goes to wrong location when buffer has hidden regions Peter Sanford
2008-10-07  1:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-09 18:00   ` Glenn Morris
2016-01-02 21:43     ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-03  3:35       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-03  4:06         ` Glenn Morris
2016-01-03 15:25           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-03 21:13             ` John Wiegley
2016-01-03  6:22       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-03 15:31         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-01-03 16:06           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-03 16:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-03 19:39               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-03 19:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-04  0:42                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-04 15:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-05  4:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-05  4:28                         ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-05 16:54                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-05 16:52                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-05 17:12                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-05 17:27                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-05 20:00                           ` John Wiegley
2016-01-07  4:17                             ` Stefan Monnier

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