From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: 22727@debbugs.gnu.org, johnw@gnu.org
Subject: bug#22727: Managing packages writes the user init file
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:40:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83k2m1rqb7.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56C63FD9.4050102@alice.it> (message from Angelo Graziosi on Thu, 18 Feb 2016 23:04:09 +0100)
> Cc: 22727@debbugs.gnu.org, johnw@gnu.org
> From: Angelo Graziosi <angelo.graziosi@alice.it>
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 23:04:09 +0100
>
> > If we solve this part, i.e. avoid modifying .emacs until the user
> > actually selects some packages to install, would that address your
> > concerns that triggered this bug report?
>
> No.
>
> 1.
>
> As I tried to explain, I haven't opened this report to see fixed an
> issue for me. Please read:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-02/msg00989.html
Thanks, I've read that thread before writing the above.
> On emacs-devel there is a discussion in which others think Emacs should
> not change the init file when one manages Emacs packages.
I thought this bug report was supposed to be the place where the issue
is discussed. It sounds strange to me to file a bug, and then discuss
it elsewhere.
> 2.
>
> Since I discovered this behavior, each time I need to manege packages (I
> have some packages installed from MELPA), I save my init file and
> restore it after the managing. So I never used those additions and Emacs
> seems to work the same.
If the stuff written by package.el is not needed, then it should not
write it, I agree.
> Indeed I don't understand why installing packages should change MY
> init file..
Presumably because Emacs needs to know what is installed the next time
you invoke package.el.
> 3.
>
> Anyway, I am not an Emacs developer so it could be the case that for
> some obscure (to me) reason, Emacs needs those additions/informations.
> If this is true, why not use another packages configuration files? On
> emacs-devel it seems that other users/developers would prefer that..
> Given the nature of the addictions,
>
> (custom-set-variables
> ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom.
> ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
> ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
> ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
> '(package-selected-packages (quote (bla bla bla))))
> (custom-set-faces
> ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom.
> ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
> ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
> ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
> )
>
> why not to use a separate file also for Options - Customize Emacs?
As mentioned elsewhere, you can customize the variable custom-file to
have that.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-19 9:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-18 0:49 bug#22727: Managing packages writes the user init file Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-18 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 18:49 ` Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-18 20:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 22:04 ` Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-19 6:36 ` Nicolas Richard
2016-02-19 9:40 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
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