From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: sbaugh@catern.com
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Managing environments (Python venv, guix environment, etc.)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 20:06:23 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83k2g9tzow.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a8h6nwea.fsf@earth.catern.com> (sbaugh@catern.com)
> From: sbaugh@catern.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 01:01:49 -0400
>
> > One possible idea is to identify the programs that an environment
> > would like to depend on it (like the compiler), define a variable for
> > each one of them (compiler-program etc.), and then modify the
> > corresponding commands to use that variable, if bound to non-nil, in
> > preference to exec-path search.
>
> The environment also matters, so you'd need to have a
> compiler-process-environment too.
Sometimes, yes. But this is definitely for the project to set up.
> Note: The compile command already makes use of a compilation-environment
> variable.
Then we already do what you want, right?
> That would work, but again, it means updating the entire world to
> support this.
No, it means we need to make specific changes in specific primitives
and infrastructure functions. Those which currently only look at
exec-path, and are involved in invoking development tools for which we
will want to provide this support. E.g., "M-x compile" will be able
to invoke the compiler specified by the environment, "M-x gdb" will be
able to invoke the debugger specified by the environment, etc.
We could also have wrappers like call-compiler, call-debugger, etc.
> Also, if we're going to update the world: Perhaps just add
> buffer-local variables "local-exec-path" and
> "local-process-environment", and flags like
> "compile-use-local-environment" which if non-nil cause the relevant
> command, when invoked, to use the local-exec-path and
> local-process-environment variables from (current-buffer). That seems
> more natural to me.
But that's exactly the danger I think we should try to avoid: a Lisp
application doesn't have good control of when buffer-local bindings
will be in effect, because Emacs internals feel at liberty to
temporarily switch to any buffer when they feel like it. These
buffer-local bindings will bite you when you don't expect.
That's why I think the environment should be only allowed to override
file names of a specific limited set of tools, not the entire
exec-path.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-25 17:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-14 21:36 Managing environments (Python venv, guix environment, etc.) sbaugh
2016-07-15 16:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-17 22:41 ` sbaugh
2016-07-18 10:15 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-07-18 14:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-18 19:13 ` sbaugh
2016-07-19 13:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-24 3:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-24 8:25 ` sbaugh
2016-07-24 23:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-21 0:32 ` sbaugh
2016-07-22 20:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-23 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-24 3:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-24 8:25 ` sbaugh
2016-07-24 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-24 17:45 ` sbaugh
2016-07-24 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-24 19:05 ` Spencer Baugh
2016-07-24 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-25 4:50 ` sbaugh
2016-07-25 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-28 0:47 ` sbaugh
2016-07-24 23:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-25 2:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-25 5:01 ` sbaugh
2016-07-25 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-07-25 7:07 ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-25 12:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-25 13:03 ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-25 13:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-25 13:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-28 0:02 ` sbaugh
2016-07-28 9:34 ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-28 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-29 17:59 ` sbaugh
2016-07-29 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-29 19:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-30 6:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-30 14:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-30 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-29 20:57 ` sbaugh
2016-07-30 7:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-30 13:30 ` sbaugh
2016-07-30 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-30 11:24 ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-29 18:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-29 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-26 2:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-24 14:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-25 0:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-25 17:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-26 2:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-26 3:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-26 10:45 ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-26 12:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-26 14:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2016-07-28 10:01 Spencer Baugh
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2016-07-28 10:08 ` Michael Albinus
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