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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: on eshell's encoding
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:14:24 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83k2g7rrbz.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86zip3uweo.fsf@toledo.com> (message from Daniel Bastos on Wed, 27 Jul 2016 08:56:31 -0300)

> From: Daniel Bastos <dbastos@toledo.com>
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 08:56:31 -0300
> 
> >> You're right.  This is MS-Windows.  But I thought MS-Windows would not
> >> interfere here.  Why does it interfere?  I thought the messages would go
> >> straight into git's ARGV.
> >
> > How can it go "straight"?  
> 
> I meant not being messed with.  I don't know anything about MS-Windows.
> In UNIX the creation of a new process by a shell is likely to call
> execve, which won't touch the caller strings passed in through the
> argv-argument.

Like I said, Eshell is not a shell, it just pretends to be one.  It
will eventually cause execve, or something like it, to be called, but
before it, the command-line arguments will be encoded in the locale's
encoding, since that's what execve expects.  This is true on Windows
and on Unix alike.  So in this case, the command-line arguments are
always "messed with" in Emacs.  If your locale happens to use UTF-8,
then it will _almost_ look as if the arguments were passed to execve
untouched, but that's an illusion, and is certainly incorrect when the
locale's codeset is not UTF-8 (which is always true on Windows).



  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-27 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-26 14:25 on eshell's encoding Daniel Bastos
2016-07-26 15:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] ` <mailman.2058.1469545530.26859.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-07-26 16:49   ` Daniel Bastos
2016-07-26 17:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-26 18:26       ` Yuri Khan
2016-07-26 18:35         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <mailman.2074.1469553449.26859.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-07-27 11:56       ` Daniel Bastos
2016-07-27 13:15         ` Yuri Khan
2016-07-27 16:22           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-27 16:47             ` Yuri Khan
2016-07-27 17:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-27 16:14         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
     [not found]         ` <mailman.2119.1469636078.26859.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-08-02 13:24           ` Daniel Bastos
2016-08-02 15:12             ` Eli Zaretskii

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