From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24229: 25.1; Can't set EPA program Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:35:09 +0300 Message-ID: <83k2fedr9u.fsf@gnu.org> References: <89B49EC8-8E9C-462F-8E0C-9A6ABC7A8C87@tenpoint.co.nz> <87mvkcqzbf.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> <4B42E5C1-2FC6-471D-9E68-309B1C9DF1FD@tenpoint.co.nz> <83ziobe80q.fsf@gnu.org> <83pop6dv1x.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1471534680 22015 195.159.176.226 (18 Aug 2016 15:38:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 15:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nick@tenpoint.co.nz, 24229@debbugs.gnu.org To: Daiki Ueno Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 18 17:37:51 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1baPOA-0005GA-W1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 17:37:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53226 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1baPO8-0005MF-5r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:37:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48997) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1baPMU-0004Yb-C4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:36:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1baPMQ-0004z4-6H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:36:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:35833) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1baPMQ-0004z0-3F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1baPMP-0005Ve-R5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:36:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 15:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24229 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24229-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24229.147153451921124 (code B ref 24229); Thu, 18 Aug 2016 15:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24229) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2016 15:35:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33545 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1baPLj-0005Ue-GA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:35:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57832) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1baPLi-0005UR-AR for 24229@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:35:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1baPLc-0004h1-Az for 24229@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:35:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1baPLW-0004ZW-Ja; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:35:06 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2426 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1baPLU-0007LV-Na; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:35:05 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Daiki Ueno on Thu, 18 Aug 2016 17:08:03 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:122367 Archived-At: > From: Daiki Ueno > Cc: nick@tenpoint.co.nz, 24229@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 17:08:03 +0200 > > > What I meant is that Customize does have a way of telling that a value > > was changed using setq, so evidently there's some infrastructure for > > that which you could use. Am I missing something? > > Do you mean custom-variable-state Yes, I guess so. > The function just compares a value with the default value. In that > case, we cannot determine whether a user explicitly sets the > variable to "gpg2", or the default value "gpg2" is used. You mean, using setq to set the value that is identical to the default is somehow different from using the default unchanged? Isn't that confusing for users?