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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org>
Cc: 24640@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24640: Crashes in 25.1
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:53:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83k2dfc4ya.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOnWdohc8gOBHLCAaoSHUdY52ouQjWm1nVAoi1-J7=JFDRf2ew@mail.gmail.com> (message from Reuben Thomas on Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:08:45 +0100)

> From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org>
> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:08:45 +0100
> Cc: 24640@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  read_objects is a global variable, so it could be that some code
>  invoked in the middle of reading one #n=object form clobbers it by
>  reading another. However, I don't immediately see such forms in the
>  few of your many init files I looked in.
> 
> ​Indeed, I'm not aware of having used such a form myself, nor can I find one by grepping.
> 
>  Do you have any idea where
>  ​ ​
>  this could come from?
> 
> ​No, sorry.​
> 
>  One place they are abundant is in *.elc files,
>  so maybe some recursive load together with the timer-based lazy
>  desktop operation does that? I don't really have a working hypothesis
>  for now.
> 
> Could it be loading the undo-tree undo history? The crash always seems to happen when loading mit.tex. It
> tries to load the undo-tree history, fails (because the file has been changed since the history was last saved),
> then crashes. The undo-tree history is full of #n=object forms.

Yes, that was also on my suspect list.

> I can let you have the undo-tree history file if that might help you identify the corrupted data.

Is it possible to disable this loading of undo-tree history?  If so,
can you disable it and see if Emacs no longer crashes?  If the crashes
stop when undo-tree history is not loaded, we will have to look
closely at what that loading does, because the problem is probably
there.  The internals of undo changed in Emacs 25.

>  I'm not an expert on X tricks -- is there any way you can trick Emacs
>  to start a GUI session when I invoke it via SSH? Some trick with the
>  value of DISPLAY in the environment, perhaps? I don't need to see
>  what Emacs displays, just run it live under GDB. The problem that
>  causes the crash happens before the code I see in the backtrace --
>  that code just triggers GC. So it would be beneficial to run Emacs
>  under GDB and try to see, for example, what code changes read_objects
>  and how (assuming it is not changed to a non-nil value too many
>  times). Can this be arranged?
> 
> ​If you use "ssh -X", you can get an X connection and Emacs will start a GUI session. That's the simplest thing
> I can think of; not really a trick at all.​

Yes, I know, but that requires me to have an X server here, which I
don't have, and prefer not to set up.  Is there some way of telling
Emacs to open its display on your local terminal instead?





  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-11 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-07 23:12 bug#24640: Crashes in 25.1 Reuben Thomas
2016-10-08  5:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-08 13:28   ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-08 13:30   ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-08 14:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-08 15:26       ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-08 15:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-08 22:08           ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-09  7:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-09  7:45               ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-09  9:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-09 20:21                   ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-10  6:15                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-10 16:12                       ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-10 16:33                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-10 17:01                           ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-10 17:05                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-10 17:06                               ` Reuben Thomas
     [not found]                           ` <CAOnWdoheXTvdasXN8vQFZPyayZVHD-QweqJupVrS8BQFxj2iGw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                             ` <831szodsus.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                               ` <CAOnWdojJHhajbRcinnubLfwWhY=snydnPM7Cws9ktX+pJe8aGA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                 ` <83zimccbzr.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                                   ` <CAOnWdojzYsTR=wyrn-k2dJbStej89neskr=vwZQQWrQVCGtpkA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-10-11 11:59                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 14:08                                       ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-11 14:53                                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-10-11 15:19                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 15:42                                             ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-11 16:26                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 15:41                                           ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-11 16:33                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 16:41                                               ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-12 10:31                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 10:57                                                 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-12 11:14                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 13:50                                                 ` Toby Cubitt
2016-10-12 14:44                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 16:56                                                     ` Toby Cubitt
2016-10-12 17:28                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 18:07                                                         ` Toby Cubitt
2016-10-12 19:15                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 20:45                                                             ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-14 20:06                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii

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