From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 26.1 release branch created Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:42:13 +0300 Message-ID: <83k20h946y.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20170922193511.GC7229@ACM> <20170922220700.GD7229@ACM> <20170924143939.GC5725@ACM> <20170924194139.GA6793@ACM> <20170925190357.GA4651@ACM> <855b1231-2279-4fd7-a2d6-be65435bb8be@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506681767 20240 195.159.176.226 (29 Sep 2017 10:42:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 29 12:42:43 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxskj-0004hG-BF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 12:42:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34618 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxskq-0008T5-DR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 06:42:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46912) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxskj-0008Sn-8e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 06:42:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxskg-0001Sn-4S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 06:42:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37091) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxskg-0001Sh-0t; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 06:42:38 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1134 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dxskX-0007NA-Rj; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 06:42:31 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 25 Sep 2017 19:52:22 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218892 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 19:52:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > > > (let ((text-quoting-style 'grave)) > >  (message "(setq coding-system '%S)" > >           (find-operation-coding-system 'write-region "x"))) > > > > is incorrect, because it changes the quoting style not just for the > > message, but also for the internals of find-operation-coding-system, > > internals that are unrelated to the message and which will behave > > contrary to user preference. > > So don't do that. Just because you _can_ try to evaluate > `(cons 42)', that doesn't mean it is usually a great idea > to do so. We are talking about what to say in the manual. That some particular way of achieving things isn't mentioned in the manual doesn't yet mean it doesn't work when used correctly. This all is a side lobe of the current discussion, let's not allow ourselves to be distracted from the main issue at hand.