From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 17:06:58 +0300 Message-ID: <83k1eqcx31.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <83v9yb92c7.fsf@gnu.org> <878sv7sp3r.fsf@telefonica.net> <83r28z8zl9.fsf@gnu.org> <83o9438xgd.fsf@gnu.org> <87r28zqy2r.fsf@telefonica.net> <83woiqczm7.fsf@gnu.org> <87d0kir00d.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="139667"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 16 16:07:32 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRH2h-000aBl-4Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 16:07:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58704 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRH2f-0005y1-To for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 10:07:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50017) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRH2R-0005wR-KZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 10:07:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52582) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRH2N-0008Cc-T9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 10:07:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3948 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hRH2K-0006Gz-F6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 10:07:10 -0400 In-reply-to: <87d0kir00d.fsf@telefonica.net> (message from =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes on Thu, 16 May 2019 15:40:02 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120441 Archived-At: > From: Óscar Fuentes > Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 15:40:02 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Óscar Fuentes > >> Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 22:09:32 +0200 > >> > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > >> >> > "Outside Savannah" is not relevant when we talk about Emacs. > >> > >> If people are implementing the features but can't be integrated in stock > >> Emacs, the Savannah boundary becomes relevant. > > > > Not for this thread, which deals specifically with what's available in > > Emacs OOB. > > I'm sure the authors of those packages would be happy to see them > integrated on Emacs but... It frequently is not enough to be happy about including something, there are other factors. > >> >> Assuming that the authors have no problem assigning their copyrights > >> >> to FSF, what prevents the outside work from being integrated into > >> >> Emacs in Savannah to improve Emacs's C++ IDE features? > >> > > >> > Under those assumptions, and if that work doesn't use any non-free > >> > software, nothing. > >> > >> Unfortunately, this is not true. > > > > Yes, it is. > > ... they work on top of Clang which, as you very well know, exclude them > from being incorporated in Emacs. It does?