From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Questions about throw-on-input Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 21:23:15 +0300 Message-ID: <83k11i9vqk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <72ec0924-42f3-9f55-7edb-b2f9b678f707@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="48877"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, yyoncho@gmail.com To: Alexander Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 11 20:24:13 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYD65-000CcG-Ey for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 20:24:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43910 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYD64-0006Bb-Fd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 14:24:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43046) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYD5H-0004kc-1u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 14:23:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43487) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYD5G-0008WF-JG; Mon, 11 May 2020 14:23:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4663 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jYD5F-0007WG-81; Mon, 11 May 2020 14:23:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <72ec0924-42f3-9f55-7edb-b2f9b678f707@web.de> (message from Alexander Miller on Mon, 11 May 2020 19:39:22 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249855 Archived-At: > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, yyoncho@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Alexander Miller > Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 19:39:22 +0200 > > And while we are on the topic of threads, I wonder what is the > maintainers' opinion on https://nullprogram.com/blog/2018/05/31/, > specifically this part: > > > Update: ThreadSanitizer (TSan) quickly shows that Emacs’ threading > > implementation has many data races, making it completely > > untrustworthy. Until this is fixed, nobody should use Emacs threads > > for any purpose, and threads should disabled at compile time. All true, except that the last sentence is the author's personal opinion, of course, not a fact. That and the "untrustworthy" thing, which is completely out of place. If someone thinks he or she can fix those races, I invite them to do so ASAP, such changes will be very welcome. I had my share if messing with that.