From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: etc/HELLO: On Chinese and Cantonese Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 13:57:59 +0300 Message-ID: <83k0vhjjk8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mu0e3giu.fsf@posteo.net> <83wnzil7ki.fsf@gnu.org> <831rhpl9bm.fsf@gnu.org> <874kmlz89b.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38294"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, ksqsf@mail.ustc.edu.cn, rms@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: "Mingde (Matthew) Zeng" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 23 12:59:22 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kVun4-0009s9-47 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 12:59:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35182 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVun3-00065v-6j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:59:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46848) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVumK-0005Ik-3l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:58:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41960) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVumH-0001Gw-DH; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:58:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2890 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kVulx-00088Z-65; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:58:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: <874kmlz89b.fsf@posteo.net> (matthewzmd@posteo.net) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258342 Archived-At: > From: "Mingde (Matthew) Zeng" > Cc: rms@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, > ksqsf@mail.ustc.edu.cn > Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 03:55:28 -0400 > > > >> I have contacts in Taiwan who can tell us. > > Verify with a Taiwan native speaker if you really want to invest more time on this, but I'll be 99.98% sure that he/she won't have a problem with "你好". In fact, Taiwan folks write Traditioanl Chinese as well, but speak a local dialect, which is not of our concern here. > > > But I'd like to reiterate what I said earlier: I would only remove my > > objections for changing this part of HELLO if I hear from a > > representative enough group of native Chinese speakers from both sides > > of the divide that some change will be acceptable to them, and cause > > no controversies on either side. With all due respect, people who > > voiced their opinions in this matter till now cannot be considered > > such a group. In particular, none of them stated his/her country of > > origin and current place of living, nor the cultural group to which he > > or she belongs, which makes judging the opinions harder. > > Well, I am a native Mandarin speaker from Guangdong China, where a very large portion of the people speaks Cantonese, and I currently live in Canada. Thanks for the info.