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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: 50946@debbugs.gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com
Subject: bug#50946: Emacs-28: Inadequate coding in hack-elisp-shorthands
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2021 17:19:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83k0ivbjbu.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YVhlQWYSJXniDUeC@ACM> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sat, 2 Oct 2021 13:57:21 +0000)

> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 13:57:21 +0000
> Cc: joaotavora@gmail.com, 50946@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> 
> > If you want me to take your critique seriously, please be specific:
> > what are the aspects of that function that you think lack attention to
> > detail, and what detail?
> 
> The five aspects I enumerated on my original bug report.  Not checking
> for a properly formatted Local Variables: section

That is not part of the function in question, is it?  It's in
hack-local-variables--find-variables, which we use everywhere.

> not checking for lower-case in that variable being searched for

That's also in hack-local-variables--find-variables, right?

> not going back at least 3000 characters

That is now fixed, right?

> Additionally, the original code didn't check for a page boundary.

No longer relevant, right?

> What worries me is that this lack of attention to detail might extend to
> the new code in lread.c, or the documentation page.

You are welcome to point out specific issues with that.

> I still think somebody who isn't João and isn't me should check
> this.

I did that when reviewing the commit.

> I worry, to a lesser degree, it is not entirely clear whether setting
> the elisp-shorthands variable in the first line of a short file should
> be valid or not.  I don't think the current hack-elisp-shorthands is
> careful enough about this.

Why does it matter?

> > And while at that, please try to distinguish between general problems
> > of hack-local-variables--find-variables, which affect all of Emacs,
> > and hack-elisp-shorthands, which is specific to this feature.
> 
> I think all the things I've said in this bug report are about
> hack-elisp-shorthands and the other new code/doc in this feature.

See above: I don't think I agree.

> > So the invitation to calm down goes both ways here.  Please focus on
> > technical issues and leave ad-hominem out of this, okay?
> 
> Is this bug to be fixed completely, or are the edge cases just to be
> ignored as unimportant?  That is the current technical issue as I see
> it.  I really don't want to fix the bug myself, but am prepared to do so
> if nobody else is.  If you think the bug indeed needs completely fixing,
> please reopen it - there's no point in me trying to reopen it again.  If
> you don't, just leave things the way they are.

Please forget what happened before, and let's pick up from the above
points I mention.  What else needs to be fixed in shorthands.el, and
why?





  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-02 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-01 17:10 bug#50946: Emacs-28: Inadequate coding in hack-elisp-shorthands Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-01 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-01 21:15   ` João Távora
2021-10-02  6:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-02  0:48   ` João Távora
2021-10-02 10:50     ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-02 11:13       ` João Távora
2021-10-02 11:38       ` João Távora
2021-10-02 12:38         ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-02 12:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-02 13:57             ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-02 14:19               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-10-02 14:45                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-02 15:00                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-02 20:07                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-03 11:45                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-03 12:10                     ` bug#50946: insert-file-contents can corrupt buffers. [Was: bug#50946: Emacs-28: Inadequate coding in hack-elisp-shorthands] Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-03 12:40                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-03 13:33                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-03 15:04                         ` bug#50946: insert-file-contents can corrupt buffers Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-03 15:25                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-03 17:21                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-03 17:36                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-03 18:19                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-03 15:34                         ` bug#50946: insert-file-contents can corrupt buffers. [Was: bug#50946: Emacs-28: Inadequate coding in hack-elisp-shorthands] João Távora
2021-10-03 15:42                           ` João Távora
2021-10-03 15:56                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-03 16:02                             ` João Távora
2021-10-03 16:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-03 17:05                                 ` João Távora
2021-10-03 17:56                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-03 18:59                                     ` João Távora
2021-10-03 19:51                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-03 19:59                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-02 15:02                 ` bug#50946: Emacs-28: Inadequate coding in hack-elisp-shorthands João Távora
2021-10-04  0:14                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-02 14:47           ` João Távora

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