From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cl-lib warnings Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 19:14:44 +0200 Message-ID: <83k02kadbv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86o7s3lsnx.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86bknx8783.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <837cylapt4.fsf@gnu.org> <83wn6kamwr.fsf@gnu.org> <83len0aldq.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36139"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: joaotavora@gmail.com, juri@linkov.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 21 18:26:02 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p82qw-0009DA-Dm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 18:26:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p82gD-0008UC-GM; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 12:14:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p82gB-0008Qf-Kh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 12:14:55 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p82g9-0002OL-Fe; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 12:14:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=231rYfEo6wMo9CSy5OMEkjk85pz+auIQVVxEnG6j7Lo=; b=bfEtGvllQ/3Cb0nOiaRI XLuemtpWVAWCwLBzYkbqFXzaBnlZYqXaMPSaTI/L+rQ//vRRX6eDPlD91DFy4MvReiMJKZqMMJuth ASJTLpQSkJcTS+f+XATStGJHGiZsE6/ZyZ/7Zhek9tbiiuopXhVOBpJ5I2Ekf3NN4S2Md3/WPnW5f 7lOAPBy96mD/vXJpNlVcce1G90xLP/Lnv13xSAgb6el4I1+ju9M3d6NMB9u02xURtP3RoTwDwa8pV HtTNVlOxLdY1ZMjasO1O95X0hagHyivBBCsj0FzyneKtgpujKj+B6VH++B5uJ0nlOqHDWtYP2DWVW I7q0NIawSnsr6g==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p82g9-0008Dm-0e; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 12:14:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Juanma Barranquero on Wed, 21 Dec 2022 15:50:52 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301764 Archived-At: > From: Juanma Barranquero > Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 15:50:52 +0100 > Cc: João Távora , juri@linkov.net, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 3:22 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Our policy and practice was since long ago that any package which is > > always or almost always loaded at startup without any user say-so, > > should be preloaded, since not doing that makes very little sense. > > We don't have precise metrics for "always or almost always loaded at startup", I think. "Always" doesn't require any metrics. > But cl-lib is unconditionally required by 191 files under lisp/, > right now. Out of 1600+, yes.