From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: rmail and mime encoded patches annoyance Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 14:25:49 +0300 Message-ID: <83jzx4tveq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83sfbsu8el.fsf@gnu.org> <83pm6wtx0c.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27145"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 19 13:26:18 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pzyFW-0006o6-7n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 May 2023 13:26:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pzyEw-0001vx-7f; Fri, 19 May 2023 07:25:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pzyEu-0001uy-Ab for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 May 2023 07:25:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pzyEu-0005oU-2R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 May 2023 07:25:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=CokXq8u2OnT5ISpID4sIH+zY91Dn8hTaeZP4SVkUxpQ=; b=BmEmL3jHZ3Rw viW5/Ewtc1fy39JoELLBguoFTJWydnQfFNZ/4mFptGqXZ8GnX3/VHub4AXtAuGD44NufuMwZ3qZwv UR01CIMFoMbkYvD5oNHXWJ+RIINe6BjqMFesmm6bMAXzWiD+VCctN96Vxo2o67PA5mTxKqjWRINTt bOC145qFFJWOBC1kDitqgzriMtPOM67tBNYzkqxIGWRjRl1e3BrJ3aNXxXwZXkTxzcTERnX+uWwrf cdRidilYBHnrKMH9gvCR+9FzJW6ftVwVJNp8SYGGpaUqXL937PqoIphvHVVHMwjM8PcjZEm9tk6CK ukuZ71f1sK8VYEe7auw8JA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pzyEo-0002YG-CA; Fri, 19 May 2023 07:25:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: (ams@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306206 Archived-At: > From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 07:08:17 -0400 > > Buffers aren't permanent. I'd need to save the buffer to a file, to > later re-open, and then send -- possibly also remove the file when > done. RMAIL already keeps tabs on what messages I've replied to or > not, or have edited. And I get all of that just in one go, when I > edit a message. I can label messages, and show only specific ones > based on labels. > > Adding FCC/BCC is an extra additional step that is very easy to > forget, which also involves actually sending your email, and fetching > your email -- so a permanent network connection. > > All the suggestions are additional work, work which did not exist > before MIME. It is neither incremental, nor inuitive if you are > already familiar with rmail-edit. I see where you are coming from, but I'm using the facilities I described all the time, and never had any problems with them. OTOH, what you are after doesn't exist. So my suggestion is to change your MO to use the facilities I described, because they are ready to be used and quite convenient. Of course, if you decide instead to extend rmail-edit to support your use patterns, I'm sure we will be interested in considering your changes for inclusion in rmail.el/rmailmm.el TIA