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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: acm@muc.de, raeburn@raeburn.org, joakim@verona.se,
	jan.h.d@swipnet.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: build broken: no defun org-float-time.  Who's guilty, and what does he propose?
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:51:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83iqft2ul1.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwviqft9yav.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
> Cc: Ken Raeburn <raeburn@raeburn.org>, acm@muc.de, jan.h.d@swipnet.se,
>         joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:01:21 -0400
> 
> Note that a basic hypothesis here, is that "make bootstrap" is not
> a good solution, so any solution that ends recompiling similar amounts
> of code is not good either.  But if you look in detail, you'll see that
> only bootstrap does it really right: the byte-compiler is
> a prerequisitie of all elc files, and the byte-compiler itself uses
> potentially any code in loadup.el (and then some), so any change to
> a preloaded file should fundamentally require recompiling all
> Lisp files.

I don't think this is quite that bad.  There's a similar issue in many
GNU packages with config.h files produced by a configure script, and
the solution there is to output the new version into a temporary file
and use move-if-change to replace the original file.  We could do the
same with bytecomp.elc, and that would solve the above problem.

>   When byte-compiling elc files with a preexisting emacs-bootstrap
>   binary, re-load all the files that were preloaded but that have been
>   changed since building emacs-bootstrap, before doing the actual
>   recompilation (i.e. when starting emacs-bootstrap, check the
>   load-history to see if any of those files have changed and reload them
>   if needed).

Sounds like a good plan to me.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-08 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-07  9:28 build broken: no defun org-float-time. Who's guilty, and what does he propose? Alan Mackenzie
2009-09-07  9:47 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-09-07  9:52 ` joakim
2009-09-07 10:09   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-07 11:37     ` joakim
2009-09-07 10:30   ` Jan D.
2009-09-07 17:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-09-07 17:59       ` Ken Raeburn
2009-09-07 18:32         ` Drew Adams
2009-09-07 18:42           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-07 19:22             ` Ken Raeburn
2009-09-07 19:03         ` Glenn Morris
2009-09-07 19:20           ` Drew Adams
2009-09-07 20:08           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-09-07 21:43             ` more reliable `make' Glenn Morris
2009-09-08 16:46               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-10  6:28                 ` Glenn Morris
2009-09-10 13:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-07 20:59           ` build broken: no defun org-float-time. Who's guilty, and what does he propose? joakim
2009-09-07 21:39             ` Glenn Morris
2009-09-07 21:55               ` joakim
2009-09-07 21:13           ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-09-08 16:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-08 18:17               ` build broken: no defun org-float-time. A workaround Alan Mackenzie
2009-09-08 19:08                 ` Ken Raeburn
2009-09-07 20:06         ` build broken: no defun org-float-time. Who's guilty, and what does he propose? Eli Zaretskii
2009-09-07 23:39           ` Ken Raeburn
2009-09-08  2:41             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-09-08  3:20             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-09-08  7:54               ` Ken Raeburn
2009-09-08 17:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-09-08 18:32                   ` Ken Raeburn
2009-09-08 17:01           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-08 17:51             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2009-09-09  3:14               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-08  2:37       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-09-08  3:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-09-08 17:11   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-07 10:05 ` Miles Bader
2009-09-07 11:15   ` joakim
2009-09-07 13:35   ` Alan Mackenzie

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