From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next pretest, and branching plans Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:51:27 +0200 Message-ID: <83iq9rx0bk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <873a0yhknd.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <136A0B1647B74A53A26506F872BECC6E@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1266805168 25060 80.91.229.12 (22 Feb 2010 02:19:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 02:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: sdl.web@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 20 19:12:47 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nitcd-0006Cv-1q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:00:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35500 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nitcc-0000c2-4B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:00:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NitUL-0007JU-Vm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:51:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49264 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NitUL-0007IA-40 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:51:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NitUK-0007m6-Dz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:51:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:36392) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NitUK-0007m0-5O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:51:32 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KY500G00IWWOP00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:51:30 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.213.68]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KY500DBCIXRT480@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:51:28 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <136A0B1647B74A53A26506F872BECC6E@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121254 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:52:50 -0800 > Cc: > > Perhaps more importantly, there will be fewer (far fewer, IMO) new bug reports > from Windows users for the latest code. Instead of a pretest, you will, in > effect, just wait until after the release to get such bug reports. The purpose > of the pretest will thus be defeated, except for those Windows pretesters who > are willing to build Emacs. It's not clear what statistics you have to back this up. I know for a fact that several users of the Windows port build Emacs themselves; what percentage that is of the overall number of people who use the pretest on Windows should be a subject of survey, not guesswork. FWIW, tools for such a build are readily available, and help for setting them up is offered here. So I could never understand why people who want to contribute refuse to install the necessary development environment. It's not that setting up such a development environment is hard or needs many hours.