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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Intervals crash
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:16:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83iq1vtv3y.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bp7n3c19.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>

> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
> Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
>     emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:12:34 +0900
> 
>  > I'd rather fix it properly.  I replaced all EMACS_UINT with
>  > EMACS_INT in intervals.c, it couldn't be worse than int it used
>  > before.
> 
> You should just do that everywhere.  EMACS_UINT is a bad idea, and
> should be avoided.

Easier said then done, for someone such as myself, with very limited
resources.  I used EMACS_UINT because the related data structure used
it for some of its members.  I didn't have time to study the code
enough to understand whether it was really needed, but the change
which introduced it was deliberate, so I trusted that whoever did it
had good reasons.

> First, unsigned-ness tends to propagate because of C coercion rules,
> which is rarely desired

Funny that you should mention it, because I used EMACS_UINT precisely
to avoid such problems (comparison of signed and unsigned), given that
some struct members were unsigned.

> The conclusion is that unsigneds (eg, size_t's) should be treated the
> same way you treat legacy-encoded external text input: hazardous
> material that you should convert to some sane internal type as soon as
> possible, and to be produced only just before use in external APIs.
> As such, there's really no need for EMACS_UINT.

If you really need the full range of size_t or EMACS_UINT, there's
little you can do in practice.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-24  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-23 18:23 Intervals crash Chong Yidong
2010-09-23 18:52 ` Chong Yidong
2010-09-23 19:01   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-23 19:09     ` Chong Yidong
2010-09-23 19:32       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-23 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-24  6:12   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-09-24  8:16     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2010-09-24  8:52       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-09-24 10:03         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-25 14:34           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-09-25 16:10             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-25 18:54               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-09-25 22:07                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-26 13:08                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-09-26 19:22                     ` Miles Bader
2010-09-26 19:33                       ` David Kastrup
2010-09-27  4:53                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-09-27  6:55                         ` David Kastrup
2010-09-27  7:42                           ` Jan Djärv
2010-09-27  8:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-27  9:02                               ` David Kastrup
2010-09-27 11:02                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-27  8:36                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-27  8:50                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-09-27  9:39                             ` David Kastrup
2010-09-27  9:45                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-27 10:11                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-09-24 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii

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