From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:21:17 +0200 Message-ID: <83iovleneq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mwl04w3k.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <83zjoyewgn.fsf@gnu.org> <528DBD8C.2040806@online.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385050894 12964 80.91.229.3 (21 Nov 2013 16:21:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas =?iso-8859-15?Q?R=F6hler?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 21 17:21:39 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjX0X-0003Da-Cm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:21:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34021 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjX0W-00077s-Sj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 11:21:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57038) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjX0N-0006h2-AD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 11:21:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjX0H-00050h-1c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 11:21:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:57915) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjX0G-00050D-QV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 11:21:16 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MWM00F00FZG1800@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:21:15 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MWM00FF2G3E1210@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:21:15 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <528DBD8C.2040806@online.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165492 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:12 +0100 > From: Andreas R=F6hler >=20 > > However, I don't understand why these features are put forward be= fore > > much more basic ones. As I understand Richard's request, he woul= d > > like to do everything we can do in Texinfo, but with WYSIWYG disp= lay, > > have a capability to export that in several formats, and be able = to > > print it from Emacs. Why not start with these modest features? > > > > >=20 > It's far from being modest. Maybe you read too much into what I've written. You can get a pretty good idea if you visit etc/enriched.doc. > Seems Richard reached the point of users-interest, where the most p= opular editor started in 1981. What's the harm, if Emacs still doesn't have those features? > Please note: saying "most popular", not best. However, there was al= ways a point noticing that, brought here forward in vain several time= s. >=20 > Also don't think Emacs may change it's path that easily: it would m= ean to turn from producer domination into a kind of consumer market. > AFAIS there is no infrastructure for this. Before we worry about popularity, we should worry about functionality= .