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* bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `'
@ 2013-12-29 22:08 Gregor Zattler
  2013-12-30  1:14 ` Glenn Morris
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 104+ messages in thread
From: Gregor Zattler @ 2013-12-29 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 16292

Dear emacs developers,

when I do a `make docs' the generated info files do not contain
`' -quotes any more but '' -quotes.

This breaks e.g. info+ fontification (a very helpful feature).

Reason is makeinfo >=5 produces either single straight quotes for
info files or single curly ones, depending on the document
encoding:

(from makeinfo maunal:)
   'OPEN_QUOTE_SYMBOL'
        When an opening quote is needed, e.g., for '@samp' output, use the
        specified character; default '‘' for HTML, '‘' for
        Docbook.  For Info, the default depends on the enabled document
        encoding (*note @documentencoding::); if no document encoding
        is set, or the encoding is US-ASCII, etc., ''' is used.
        This character usually appears as an undirected single quote
        on modern systems.  If the document encoding is Unicode, the
        Info output uses a Unicode left quote.
   [...]


(from makeinfo maunal:)     
   17.2 '@documentencoding ENC': Set Input Encoding
   ================================================
   
   The '@documentencoding' command declares the input document encoding.
   Write it on a line by itself, with a valid encoding specification
   following, near the beginning of the file but after '@setfilename'
   (*note @setfilename::):
   
        @documentencoding ENC
   
     At present, Texinfo supports only these encodings:
   
   'US-ASCII'
        This has no particular effect, but it's included for completeness.
   
   'UTF-8'
        The vast global character encoding, expressed in 8-bit bytes.
   
   'ISO-8859-2'
   'ISO-8859-1'
   'ISO-8859-15'
   [...]
     



Searching texinfos mailing list archives showed that this was
discussed roughly two years before and that it is the result of a
decision to go the same way as the rest of the world which
interprets ` as grave accent:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.bugs/5526/match=single+quotes :

|> For the record, RFC20 says the meaning of character 0x60 is
|> EITHER "grave accent" OR "opening single quotation mark".  It
|> then says this character ".. should not be used without
|> determining that there is agreement between sender and recipient"


I think it's highly desirable to be able to tell beginning and
closing of enclosing characters apart.  Therefore I consider the
info files single straight quotes a bug.  I assume there is a way
to produce `' quotations with modern makeinfo or the *.texi files
should have @documentencoding directives which produce single
curly quotes.


Thanks for your attention, Gregor





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2013-12-29 22:08 bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Gregor Zattler
2013-12-30  1:14 ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-30  3:07   ` Drew Adams
2013-12-30  3:26     ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-30  3:23 ` Paul Eggert
2013-12-30  4:10   ` Drew Adams
2013-12-30 17:24   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-30 17:33     ` Drew Adams
2013-12-30 18:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-30 19:07     ` Paul Eggert
2013-12-30 19:29       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-30 19:46         ` Andreas Schwab
2013-12-30 20:08           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-30 20:35             ` Andreas Schwab
2013-12-31  8:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-31  5:51           ` Paul Eggert
2013-12-31  5:58         ` Paul Eggert
2013-12-31  8:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-02  2:05             ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-02  3:42               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-02  4:50                 ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-02 15:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-02 19:28                     ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-02 20:56                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03  0:44                         ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-03  8:03                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 17:26                             ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-03 20:18                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 20:48                                 ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-03 21:12                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 21:52                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  0:07                                   ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-04  0:40                                     ` Drew Adams
2014-01-04  0:49                                       ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-04  7:27                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04  5:18                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  7:45                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-01-04 18:01                                         ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-04 20:11                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-01-04 20:24                                             ` Drew Adams
2014-01-04 20:42                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 20:30                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04 20:45                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-01-04 20:53                                             ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-04 21:08                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 23:29                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-05  3:47                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-05  5:23                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-05 16:30                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 21:11                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-05  3:43                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-01-05  4:55                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-05 16:19                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-01-05 20:02                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-05 20:06                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-01-05 20:12                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-05 20:19                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-01-05 23:05                                                             ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-06  3:54                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-01-06  4:39                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06  5:31                                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-06 16:15                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-07  1:15                                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-07  3:56                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-05-02 18:11                                                                         ` Drew Adams
2014-05-02 18:22                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-02 19:07                                                                           ` Paul Eggert
2014-05-02 19:19                                                                             ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-02 19:28                                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2014-05-02 21:10                                                                                 ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-02 21:25                                                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2014-05-02 19:33                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2014-05-02 20:36                                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2014-05-02 20:53                                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2014-05-02 21:14                                                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2014-05-02 21:28                                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2014-05-02 21:47                                                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2014-05-03  6:02                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-03  6:56                                                                                 ` Paul Eggert
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2014-05-02 19:20                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2014-05-03  9:27                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2014-05-03 13:50                                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2014-05-03 15:51                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2014-05-07 20:21                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2014-05-07 20:41                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2014-01-04 17:50                                       ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-04 20:08                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 20:53                                           ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-04 21:10                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 23:35                                               ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-05  3:49                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 20:32                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  7:41                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04  7:38                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-02  4:19     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-02  4:48       ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-02 15:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
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