From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contributing LLVM.org patches to gud.el Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 05:52:21 +0200 Message-ID: <83iofa8lu2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mw4rxkzv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4oavxcy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d25juy8m.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423540378 5396 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2015 03:52:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 03:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 10 04:52:58 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YL1sf-0006zg-Cq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 04:52:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36781 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL1se-0003tz-B0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:52:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33102) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL1sR-0003td-6b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:52:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL1sQ-0003N7-Ao for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:52:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:53169) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL1sI-0003KR-Vx; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:52:35 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NJJ00O00DQ4KQ00@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 05:47:26 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NJJ00L6NEJ29X50@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 05:47:26 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182775 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 21:40:20 -0500 > Cc: dak@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > In particular, the only harm to Emacs is that I've been unable to > > study the GCC AST issue for a whole month. Please do not exaggerate. > > You seem not to have even understood that your insistence has compelled > David Engster to stop working on GCC-based code completion support > for CEDET. FWIW, I think David made a mistake when he gave up. I faced a similar disheartening intention (for quite different, but still political) reasons when I worked on bidi support. I decided to disregard and proceed, and the result is before your eyes. There's nothing like working code to convince people. Free Software is about freedom of developers as well.