From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 18:07:13 +0300 Message-ID: <83ioboehcu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fv77barj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zj5fgpd8.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <83h9rnp0yy.fsf@gnu.org> <83zj5enihg.fsf@gnu.org> <554EFEFD.6090908@gmail.com> <833834o4rv.fsf@gnu.org> <834mnjm73d.fsf@gnu.org> <838ucpgepi.fsf@gnu.org> <83h9rbfegu.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnhieztw.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1432048146 10731 80.91.229.3 (19 May 2015 15:09:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 15:09:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 19 17:09:00 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yuj8e-0000Lw-12 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 17:09:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46736 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yuj8d-00048C-5j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 11:08:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46535) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yuj8K-00045u-MB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 11:08:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yuj8F-0004vW-EE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 11:08:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:42227) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yuj8F-0004v8-6g for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 11:08:35 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NOL00500RDZ4W00@mtaout26.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 18:09:02 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NOL00OCSRF25Z50@mtaout26.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 18:09:02 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.182 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104487 Archived-At: > From: Vaidheeswaran C > Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 11:20:43 +0530 > > What I would have ALSO liked to hear from you is your inputs on what > would make "The Emacs Primer" a success. For example, I am thinking > of multiple Emacs primers: > > 1. An Emacs Primer for Common Text Editing Tasks. > 2. An Emacs Primer for Programmers. > 3. An Emacs Primer for Thesis Writers. > 4 An Emacs Primer for The Network Savvy. I cannot (yet) answer these questions, mainly because it's not clear to me what would be the scope of such primers. Perhaps you could clarify that. For example, the Emacs manual has a chapter named "Commands for Human Languages", which seems to cover the same turf as your "Common Text Editing Tasks". So what part of that would be in scope for the "Text Primer"? Same question regarding "Primer for Programmers" vs. "Editing Programs", "Compiling and Testing Programs", and maybe also "Maintaining Large Programs". By "scope" I mean where does each primer start and where does it end? IOW, I guess it goes back to the questions asked by RMS, which you didn't (yet) answer. > I would very much appreciate your notings on my (future) drafts. When there are drafts, why not?