From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21959: [25.1.50.1] No way to save customization from emacs -Q Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:54:17 +0200 Message-ID: <83io4w6506.fsf@gnu.org> References: <564DC031.4020104@easy-emacs.de> <83oaeq7zm7.fsf@gnu.org> <564ECAA7.8030507@easy-emacs.de> <83io4x6pt0.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448034923 19412 80.91.229.3 (20 Nov 2015 15:55:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21959@debbugs.gnu.org To: Random832 Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 20 16:55:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzo1m-0007TA-4V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 16:55:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48231 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzo1l-0006w7-5P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:55:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51427) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzo1i-0006vL-3M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:55:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzo1e-0000jm-Ts for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:55:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56646) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzo1e-0000je-Qq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:55:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzo1e-0004WC-Ev for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:55:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21959 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21959-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21959.144803489217337 (code B ref 21959); Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21959) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2015 15:54:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46354 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzo1T-0004VY-H4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:54:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:48920) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzo19-0004V0-0n for 21959@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:54:50 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NY400K00E4NDN00@mtaout24.012.net.il> for 21959@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:47:23 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NY400I8KEIZDW30@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:47:23 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:108984 Archived-At: > From: Random832 > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:43:32 +0000 (UTC) > > On 2015-11-20, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > AFAIU, Customize cannot _update_ your settings (which might include > > customizations of more than one feature) without _loading_ them from > > your ~/.emacs first. > > Why can't it "load" it (into a "saved but not set" state, or where the default > value is considered "set and not saved") without _applying_ the settings, by > simply reading from your .emacs when you first run customize? Patches welcome.