From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22025: Emacs 25 corrupts Emacs 24 .emacs.desktop. Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:23:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83io4nspv5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20151127083837.GB1782@acm.fritz.box> <83r3jbstgq.fsf@gnu.org> <20151127094718.GC1782@acm.fritz.box> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448619925 25368 80.91.229.3 (27 Nov 2015 10:25:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 10:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22025@debbugs.gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 11:25:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a2GDC-0000a6-Rv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 11:25:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55709 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2GDF-00068Q-Bn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 05:25:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41776) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2GDB-00067R-ET for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 05:25:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2GD8-0006IG-5q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 05:25:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:37224) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2GD8-0006I5-2M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 05:25:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a2GD7-0002Eo-Nb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 05:25:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 10:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22025 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22025-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22025.14486198508527 (code B ref 22025); Fri, 27 Nov 2015 10:25:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22025) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2015 10:24:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55165 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a2GCI-0002DT-HD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 05:24:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:35872) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a2GBx-0002Cl-Od for 22025@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 05:24:08 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NYG00100XVFVJ00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for 22025@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:22:20 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NYG00KPXY58TR60@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:22:20 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20151127094718.GC1782@acm.fritz.box> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:109334 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 09:47:18 +0000 > Cc: 22025@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Alan Mackenzie > > > This would be a nice enhancement, but it certainly isn't a bug in my > > book. > > I couldn't disagree more. Users should be free to update to Emacs 25, > but it shouldn't be for us to force them. ??? How's this forcing an upgrade? The issue won't exist until the user, out of their free will, starts Emacs 25. > I've just lost half a morning restoring my .desktop to the earlier > format. Most users wouldn't be able to do this. I'm sorry for the time you've lost. I've learned a long time ago to back up my desktop file each time I experiment with a different version of Emacs without using the -Q switch. > I think we are enormously cavalier with the .desktop file - no backup of > any type (such as .emacs.desktop~) is kept, and should there be trouble > reading .desktop, it is difficult to exit Emacs without having this > .desktop overwritten. Maybe having backups for it would be a good and safe measure, indeed. At least as an option. Does anyone see any reasons why not? > > Of course, if making that happen is relatively easy, it would be good > > to have such a compatibility mode. Patches welcome. > > I will work on this. Thanks.