From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19368: 25.0.50; NSM prompt is not self-explanatory enough Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 11:34:23 +0200 Message-ID: <83io23v6u8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bnn762d6.fsf@gnu.org> <871t8rx21a.fsf@gnus.org> <83powbvc0s.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh6zob0a.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454664927 12963 80.91.229.3 (5 Feb 2016 09:35:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 09:35:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19368@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 05 10:35:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aRcnI-0008M9-5T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:35:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47099 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRcnH-0000Le-CC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 04:35:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57820) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRcnD-0000JH-3Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 04:35:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRcn8-00025z-3F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 04:35:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:52465) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRcn7-00025n-Vt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 04:35:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aRcn7-0004vc-P9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 04:35:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 09:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19368 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 19368-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19368.145466488518917 (code B ref 19368); Fri, 05 Feb 2016 09:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19368) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2016 09:34:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32821 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aRcmr-0004v2-1r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 04:34:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38529) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aRcmm-0004um-I8 for 19368@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 04:34:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRcmc-00022F-Cs for 19368@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 04:34:35 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44744) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRcmc-00022B-9A; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 04:34:30 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1328 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aRcmb-00083b-2u; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 04:34:29 -0500 In-reply-to: <87lh6zob0a.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 05 Feb 2016 18:46:13 +1100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:112481 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: 19368@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 18:46:13 +1100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I don't think you should be bothered by that, because 'underline' is a > > standard face, and every terminal expresses it as best as they can. > > Just use it. > > But underline in addition to [t]his? > > I guess I'm asking whether there are terminals that don't do underline > at all, and I would guess that there are... so we need to do [t]his on > all terminals, unless we have a way to query the terminal for whether it > supports underline? I think you want this: (display-supports-face-attributes-p '(:underline t) FRAME) This returns non-nil only if underline is supported "in some way" by FRAME's display. Where "in some way" means that the appearance will be different from the default face.