From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 19:30:45 +0200 Message-ID: <83io1msz7e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mvr9wxqz.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87io1xwq1e.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87vb5wvzfz.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87io1wt4cc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <8737syoima.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <871t8iu277.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87y4apfpr6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87wpq9qwia.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87k2m7qse0.fsf@wanadoo.es> <878u2mqhnl.fsf@wanadoo.es> <878u2jpy0t.fsf@fastmail.fm> <834md7wdtg.fsf@gnu.org> <8737srw18s.fsf@fastmail.fm> <837fi3um8b.fsf@gnu.org> <56C4FB25.9070203@cornell.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455816657 18773 80.91.229.3 (18 Feb 2016 17:30:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 17:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, per.starback@gmail.com To: Ken Brown Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 18 18:30:56 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aWSPm-0004jn-F2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 18:30:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43628 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWSPh-0007yY-0Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 12:30:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57357) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWSPZ-0007wM-Hp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 12:30:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWSPV-0003Kf-1N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 12:30:41 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52756) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWSPU-0003KP-P2; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 12:30:36 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1911 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aWSPN-0005rU-38; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 12:30:29 -0500 In-reply-to: <56C4FB25.9070203@cornell.edu> (message from Ken Brown on Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:58:45 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200136 Archived-At: > Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, per.starback@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Ken Brown > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:58:45 -0500 > > I wrote earlier with positive feedback about character folding, but I > didn't express an opinion about what the default should be. I'm now > ready to cast my vote for having it on by default. > > My reason is that I think many users are likely to find character > folding useful, but they are unlikely to discover that it exists if it > is not on by default. I have read the claims that character folding in > its present form will be viewed as a bug by speakers of certain > languages. But I think the possible benefits to others outweigh the > possible harm done to those who initially think it's a bug. Thanks.