From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13949: 24.4.1; `fill-paragraph' should not always put the buffer as modified Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:31:28 +0200 Message-ID: <83io0e4b5r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56F12360.5030301@ro.ru> <83y49a4hga.fsf@gnu.org> <56F1837D.4060300@ro.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1458671549 22671 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2016 18:32:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13949@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jaakov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 22 19:32:16 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aiR6D-0005p2-6J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:32:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38892 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiR6C-0008ID-LX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:32:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48038) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiR67-0008Fh-Ep for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:32:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiR62-0002dO-Dd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:32:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:34984) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiR62-0002dK-Al for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aiR62-0005DA-6v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:32:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13949 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13949-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13949.145867152120030 (code B ref 13949); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:32:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13949) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Mar 2016 18:32:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60344 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aiR61-0005Cw-Fy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:32:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57003) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aiR60-0005Cj-1n for 13949@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:32:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiR5r-0002bb-QC for 13949@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:31:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60699) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiR5r-0002bO-NF; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:31:51 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4337 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aiR5n-0000Ed-K6; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:31:48 -0400 In-reply-to: <56F1837D.4060300@ro.ru> (message from Jaakov on Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:40:13 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115346 Archived-At: > Cc: 13949@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Jaakov > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:40:13 +0100 > > > I disagree. I think Dani is right: the buffer text is changed (at > > least twice), which turns on the modified flag. This situation is > > equivalent to inserting a character and then deleting it: the buffer > > stays modified, although its text is identical to the original one. > > > Objection for the following reason: > - It's a human who types in and deletes a charter. > - fill-paragraph is not a human, but a routine. We obviously disagree. But it's pointless to continue the argument, because no matter whether this is a bug or a feature request, it must be coded to be fixed. So once again: patches are welcome, thanks in advance.