From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.orgmode,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 23:13:02 +0200 Message-ID: <83inosuwip.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k29d7zvw.fsf@engster.org> <87fuk08i01.fsf@engster.org> <87d1f36xnc.fsf@engster.org> <83tw8cv6pj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760kseb7e.fsf@engster.org> <83o9ykuy5r.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpd82twh.fsf@engster.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1486070115 28556 195.159.176.226 (2 Feb 2017 21:15:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 21:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, bzg@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 02 22:15:10 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cZOik-0007F5-E5 for geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2017 22:15:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59045 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZOip-0007rC-D2 for geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2017 16:15:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49778) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZOiC-0007qv-TY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2017 16:14:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZOi9-0004US-A1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2017 16:14:36 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38003) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZOh0-0004NC-Jb; Thu, 02 Feb 2017 16:13:22 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2572 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cZOgy-0002yr-TW; Thu, 02 Feb 2017 16:13:21 -0500 In-reply-to: <87wpd82twh.fsf@engster.org> (message from David Engster on Thu, 02 Feb 2017 21:57:02 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.orgmode:111877 gmane.emacs.devel:211896 Archived-At: > From: David Engster > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, bzg@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk > Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 21:57:02 +0100 > > > Ask the package maintainers, they see significant advantages in being > > able to release interim versions independent of Emacs releases. > > But we are discussing moving CEDET, Gnus and Org out of Emacs core, and > at least the former two do not plan to provide updates between Emacs > releases. That's fine with me, I have nothing against leaving some packages in emacs.git if their maintainers so wish. I was replying to a single aspect of this discussion: the expectation that packages which will be moved to ELPA will necessarily and inevitably suffer in terms of QA and the developers' attention they receive. I'm saying that AFAIU this is not supposed to happen, for the reasons I presented.