From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: About curly quotes (again) [Was: Emacs 26.1 release branch created] Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 05:46:40 +0300 Message-ID: <83ing8ak4v.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83377mls4d.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919173511.GA19168@ACM> <83bmm6h8vr.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919180944.GB19168@ACM> <838thah71i.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919194356.GC19168@ACM> <20170919210925.GF19168@ACM> <87y3paypfz.fsf@jane> <87efqxvf26.fsf@jane> <83377dboij.fsf@gnu.org> <87a81luru4.fsf@jane> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506221256 2673 195.159.176.226 (24 Sep 2017 02:47:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 02:47:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, jwiegley@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, acm@muc.de To: Marcin Borkowski Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 24 04:47:30 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dvwx6-000080-Ua for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 04:47:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36667 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvwxE-0004MH-3o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 22:47:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34461) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvwwc-0004M8-48 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 22:46:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvwwb-0001YH-9R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 22:46:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45159) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvwwL-0001Nx-UN; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 22:46:41 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3457 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dvwwL-0000k3-CQ; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 22:46:41 -0400 In-reply-to: <87a81luru4.fsf@jane> (message from Marcin Borkowski on Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:40:03 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218736 Archived-At: > From: Marcin Borkowski > Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, jwiegley@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, acm@muc.de > Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:40:03 +0200 > > >> Still, the _default_ behavior is broken here. > > > > If it's broken, it isn't broken by Emacs, right? > > Kind of. If TeXinfo's default is now to use curly braces, can't it be > switched off? No, not unless we customize Texinfo on the lowest level, i.e, the level of text transformation in texi2any. Since no other project does that, I don't recommend that we do it. In any case, it will only affect the manuals maintained by the Emacs project -- other Info manuals will still be using curly quotes. > If Emacs' makefile orders TeXinfo to use borked quotes, Emacs itself > should turn isearch folding so that I'm able to look for them in > Info buffers, no? We could discuss turning character folding on in Info buffers, yes. Not sure if people will agree, given the fact that they wanted it off by default, but feel free to start such a discussion. > It's a matter of consistency, isn't it? No, not really. I, for one, never search for quotes in Info manuals, I use the index search (which finds symbols much faster).